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		<title>Game Law Redux</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Casey Bisson</dc:creator>
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Matt says my attempts to analogize online roleplaying games to more familiar contests like chess or automobile racing are “just silly.” But his response appears to reinforce my point rather than refute it. It is the responsibility of the gamers and gaming organizations to create and enforce rules. People violating those rules are subject to [...]]]></description>
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<p>Matt says my attempts to <a href="http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10789/">analogize online roleplaying games to more familiar contests</a> like chess or automobile racing are “<a href="http://www.borkweb.com/story/mmorpg-cheating">just silly</a>.” But his <a href="http://www.borkweb.com/story/mmorpg-cheating">response</a> appears to reinforce my point rather than refute it. It is the responsibility of the gamers and gaming organizations to create and enforce rules. People violating those rules are subject to sanctions by the gaming organization first, but it&#8217;s hard to imagine how any contestant who follows the rules of a (legal) game can be subject to legal sanction.</p>
<p>I said as much <a href="http://www.borkweb.com/story/mmorpg-cheating#comment-21">in my comment</a> on his post, naming sports and game organizations like the <a href="http://www.fide.com/" rel="nofollow">World Chess Federation</a>,  <a href="http://www.scrabble-assoc.com/" rel="nofollow">National Scrabble Association</a>, and <a href="http://www.nhra.com/" rel="nofollow">National Hot Rod Association</a> that have been successfully enforcing and arbitrating game rules for years. But as better examples of the well trod path between law and game rules, I might have offered <a href="http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050807/REPOSITORY/508070345/1026/LIVING05" rel="nofollow">smash-up derbies</a> or boxing. Outside the game, drivers and fighters would be subject to civil and criminal penalties, but inside the game, where participants are <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">expected</span> required to be aware of the rules and the risks of the game, we find ourselves intolerant of legal interference. Not that the overall legality of violent sports like boxing hasn&#8217;t been question, but that where it is legal, the game rules are the first (and often final) authority in the ring.</p>
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<p style="text-align:right;font-size:10px;">tags: <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/game" rel="tag">game</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/game world" rel="tag">game world</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/game worlds" rel="tag">game worlds</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/gamers" rel="tag">gamers</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/games" rel="tag">games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/gaming" rel="tag">gaming</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/in game" rel="tag">in game</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/law" rel="tag">law</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mmo" rel="tag">mmo</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mmorpg" rel="tag">mmorpg</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/multiplayer online games" rel="tag">multiplayer online games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/online games" rel="tag">online games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/online role playing" rel="tag">online role playing</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/online role playing games" rel="tag">online role playing games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/real world" rel="tag">real world</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/real world violence" rel="tag">real world violence</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/role playing game" rel="tag">role playing game</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/role playing games" rel="tag">role playing games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/rpg" rel="tag">rpg</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/story world" rel="tag">story world</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/video game" rel="tag">video game</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/video games" rel="tag">video games</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/virtual" rel="tag">virtual</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/virtual economy" rel="tag">virtual economy</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/virtual world" rel="tag">virtual world</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/virtual worlds" rel="tag">virtual worlds</a></p>
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		<title>Wide World of Video Games</title>
		<link>http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10789/video-games/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Casey Bisson</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[theft]]></category>
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Matt started talking up the weird issues developing around multiplayer online games a few weeks ago. Then soon after he blogged it, a story appeared in On the Media (listen, transcript)
Short story: online gaming is huge &#8212; one developer claims four million paying customers. More significantly, the interplay between real and virtual worlds might create [...]]]></description>
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<p>Matt started talking up the <a href="http://www.borkweb.com/story/world-of-warcrack-and-the-future-of-mmogs" title="BorkWeb » Blog Archive » World of Warcrack and the future of MMOGs">weird issues developing around multiplayer online games</a> a few weeks ago. Then soon after he blogged it, a story appeared in <a href="http://onthemedia.org/otm090205.html" title="On the Media -September 2, 2005">On the Media</a> (<a href="http://onthemedia.org/stream/ram.py?file=otm/otm090205f.mp3" title="Listen.">listen</a>, <a href="http://onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_090205_econ.html" title="On The Media-- Virtual Economy">transcript</a>)</p>
<p>Short story: online gaming is huge &#8212; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000067FDW/maisonbisson-20/">one developer</a> claims four million paying customers. More significantly, the interplay between real and virtual worlds might create new challenges for this real world legal system. “Theft” of in-game money and equipment among players in the online world is possible, but it&#8217;s lead to the real-world arrest of at least one person and the murder of another when authorities refused to act.</p>
<p>One argument is that these games occupy players time and cost money, so in-game theft results in real-life loss. Baloney. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005O718/maisonbisson-20/">Chess</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IWCT/maisonbisson-20/">Monopoly</a> occupy great deals of time, but try telling the cops I rooked your knight. Money? A huge number of Americans invest time and money on building and racing cars on the <a href="http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/">approximately 1800 racetracks</a> around the country. Real time and and hard-earned money are lost when cars crash, but the track has its own rules “rubin&#8217;s racin, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/ASIN/B00000ILBL/maisonbisson-20/">Cole</a>” &#8212; and none of us would excuse a driver for off-track violence against a competitor.</p>
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