You cheap traffic chasing bastard … The other grizzly story died down so you decided you had to cash in on the traffic boom provided by grizzlies again. How low will you go?

WHEN WILL MAN REALIZE THE GIFT THAT IS GOD GIVEN, & INTENDED FOR US TO APPRECIATE NOT
CLAIM AS ARE OWN, IN ESSENCE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING, ON THE PRETEX OF SAVING THE BEARS. NO ONE IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD MAKE A CLAIM TO KNOW ALL ABOUT ANY BEAR!!! OR WILD ANIMAL!!

If someone has a gun pointed at you, you don’t tell them to shoot. If you do, you have accepted the consequences. My point being that he knew the consequences of his actions, and so I am sorry I do not offer the sympathy that may be deserving. I think is is like Herzog said; the man wasn’t playing with a full deck. You aint catchin me in hungry bear stompin grounds.

This guy harrased these bears to “save and protect” as well as exploit them, documenting them for his popularity. The real sad part is as a result of his intrusion, the bear killed him and then two Bears (one which killed him, bear number 141 and another) had to be killed

[...] Update: Grizzly Man, a new movie by Werner Herzog, is related only in theme. Here’s my vicarious Grizzly Man movie review. [...]

[...] David Edelstein’s review of Werner Herzog’s documentary, Grizzly Man, describes Timothy Treadwell as …a manic but lovable whack-job who doggedly filmed and obsessively idealized the bears that would ultimately eat him… [...]

Timothy Treadwell sacrificed everything he had in life, which sadly for such a kind soul wasn’t much, to help preserve these bear’s existance. Do not sit behind a computer screen to bark about accepting the consequences when the man already knew he was doing just that. He had a passion that was seemingly out of the world, and an impossible goal to reach, but he did it and I give him props for that.
If anyone is exploiting the grizzlies it’s Alaskan Park Services who don’t do shit to protect them from poachers who sell them to private buyers on the black market and museums who display them illegally. They allow poorly guided eco tourism that is harmful to the bears life. A man with a camera and a kind soul is not. It’s not like he played with them, and then tagged them. He studied them and got to know them for who and what they were to provide knowledge to those who knew nothing about them…for FREE.

Maybe you’re just jealous that you never followed your dreams, or grew up and stopped caring about what was really important in life.
Fot that reason, you have my sympathy, and so does Timothy.

August 23, 2005

I deemed neccessary an update from my earlier post since then having seen the movie. I found the movie very poignant in its ability to help one form an accurate opinion of Timothy. I started my quest to learn about Timothy Treadwell, and after seeing the movie I have to say it made so much more of an impression on me than I had ever thought it could, and I wouldn’t advise anyone to think they can really pass judgement on Timothy period…at least not till watching Herzog’s feature.

I just was Grizzly Man and all I can say is that this guy was a complete whacko. He was incredibly mentally unbalanced and had serious problems. He convinced himself that he was some sort of protector for these bears despite the fact that they were already in protected territory. At one point in the movie someone comes and starts throwing rocks at the bears. And what does the great bear protector do? He hides in the bushes and does nothing. Throughout the movie he did nothing to help the bears, he just got in the way of nature and as a result got himself and another eaten. Its hard to feel sorry for someone who repeatedly puts themselves in danger like that.

He did what he did, for whatever reasons he had and that was his choice. I just can’t respect the man for being totally responsible for aiding in the death of his girlfriend by convincing her to attempt the things he did. That is totally selfish. Anyone who thinks this man did anything for the grizzly are total followers of anything outlandish and could easily be talked into joining Treadwell to unwittingly pet the bears and die for no reason. Go die saving some child from a fire or from drowning. Then you’ve done something for people to talk about and remember.

You hit the nail on the head. This guy was dealing with a predator. All predators and animals in general, spend their entire lives doing only 3 things: resting, searching for food and having babies. When you are in close proximity to a predator, it see’s you as one of two catagories: something it can eat or feed it’s young, or something to challenge that wants to eat it. There is no room for friendship. That only happens in Hollywood’s special effects.

Kinda wondered why this film wasn’t called Dumbass or Eat Me Completely- I’m still wondering. I swear to God this would have been a great Ace Ventura movie - except for the GF getting eaten. The comments above for the most part are spot on. Personally I think the guy is a jerk for habituating bears to his presence - as a guide friend of mine says, “a habituated bear is a dead bear.” Having spent far more than 13 summers in bear country, I would have suggested that a can of “organic” pepper spray might have made a difference - although a bear that big might have just considered it seasoning - not sure. Look, one moral here is if you have issues like alcoholism or bedding chicks or whatever, stay home and get a good therapist - and maybe some reruns of Yogi and Booboo. By the way, those weren’t grizzlies, they were, I believe, Ursus Middendorfi. Anyway, great flick for kide as long as they can handle motherfucker, fuck you, assholes, stuff like that.

Tim was a another wacko California kid that he was saving the world from everyone except himself. Why these wacko “tree-hugger, animal- worshipers” that come from left-west coast think they are “self proclaimed experts” in whatever activist act they do. That is what Tim Tredwell did, and he found people to PAY him to do it! How did he afford to live in Alaska for 13 summers with no job? The food, the flights in and out? He conded a lot of people just like all those animal lovers! All cons. And the bears that killed him were not even grizzlies, they were brown bears! I’ve hunted bears and every animal that crawals and walks and flies. Wildlife was placed on this earth by God for man to eat and use it’s fur for clothing. Get over it! Bears are not pets and they are not your friends. Timothy named these bears cute little names like booboo and such trying to make them appear as cute little things. In his own words on the David Lettermen show he said that grizzlies were PARTY ANIMALS! Get real! What planet did he come from? I would love to know Timothy Tredwell’s entire backround! I would love to know his education, his “arrest record record” if any, drug abuse if any, his histroy in California that turned him into a bum that finally took his life and the life of his girlfriend? He got what he deserved, I am just very surprised it took so long! All that money that was raised for him to take his little vacations to play in Alaska, no real scientfic resereach at all, nothing learned excempt that sometimes it takes 13 summers to get your butt killed by bears! Anybody got a toothpick! What an idiot!

And what of Jane Goodall (spelling?). Or countless others who lived among the apes, r such creatures that are close to humans in genetics/DNA. It is so easy to scrutinize others who have the gall to go out there and study the animals So Tim may have been (as he has been called right here) a “wacko”, but in life and death he believed in what he was doing. Same as Jane, same as Timothy. Whatever he was doing, he was doing because he thought it was right. Nothing else and no one elses opinion can lessen that.

Dale, nice rant until you said, “Wildlife was placed on this earth by God for man to eat and use it’s fur for clothing.”

Animals are not to be exploited at will. Do you really need to wear fur?

one more thing…I can skip the fur but I agree that people need to eat.

For anyone who is interested in bears, this is a really good move to watch simply because of the incredible footage of them. However, I think that Timothy was trespassing in a place he shouldn’t have been. I myself am an animal-lover and I’m interested in animals, but Tim was only endangering more lives (his, his girlfriends’, and other bears) then he would if he had left them alone. He had somehow convinced himself then he was the ‘Great Protector of the Bears’, when really he wasn’t helping them at all, and was doing no more than excluding himself from reality.

There was one thing in particular that I disagreed about in this movie. Tim was so bent on ‘becoming’ a bear himself, living like them and with them, but he claimed that he would NEVER hurt or kill a bear. The truth is, bears themselves hurt and kill others for survival. If he wanted to live like one and survive, he needed to be willing to do the same.

He was so sad whenever he found a dead animal, bones, whatever. He pretended to know so much about animals and their lives though couldn’t realize that death is a part of it.

I can respect him a little bit because he followed his dream, but he went about it in a horrible way.

It’s hard for me to feel sympathy for him when he was asking for it so much. He basically walked out into a field and said, “Ok bears, here I am, do what you want with me.” He seemed quite willing to die, and though he claimed to be helping the bears, he didn’t care that he was hurting more than helping them.

He was very egotistical in that he claimed to know so much and understand them, more than any other human could ever imagine. He kept saying things like, “If you went out here, you would die! You could never survive.” Which is pretty much true, but he seemed to think that HE could survive. Well, obviously, he was wrong.

Anyway, the movie itself was interesting. Alot of things that Tim said, though, I can’t agree with.

TC,

Don’t want to wear fur because it kills animals? You’d rather wear nylon outfits that supports a massive oil exploitation and chemical manufacturing process that pollutes and kills more animals through destruction of animal habitat than hunting and trapping ever will? Then join your local animal rights group and support a massive multi-million dollar scam that benefits only those at the “top” and then get pumped full of all the mis-information and one-track brain washing your little head can handle, while your led to believe that your saving the planet.

I used to be one of those at the “top” until eventually I saw and learned what was really going on behind closed doors and how much support money was being filtered from the bottom to the “top” folks bank accounts and how the “top” is well connected and in bed with the oil and gas, mining, blue-box and landfill, real estate, government, global news and manufacturing industries. There is a really large “money industry” in fooling people to believe they’re doing the right thing for the planet. Keep your eyes open, look at all sides of the equation and don’t be so easily fooled!

Timothy Treadwell might of been losing it at the end…. but he showed people what bears were like, and how they should not be hunted period.And For That I Respect Him And Will do my best to go to alaska and follow his foot steps to show how bears are,and to study them, even if it means Death.

I have read many of the postings on this site (not all) and am wondering how so many claim to have seen the “Grizzly Man” documentary, yet seemed to miss the whole point of it all.

Everyone keeps claiming that they can’t bring themselves to sympathize for someone who put themselves in that situation. This film wasn’t about sympathizing for this man…even the filmmaker said he didn’t agree with certain views of Treadwell’s. And who are any of you to say what Timothy should or shouldn’t have died for. It was his life to live. He repeatedly said he would die for these bears…..and he did. I am not saying that this was exactly what he had in mind, but he would probably rather have been a meal to them than to have died in a plane crash.

Timothy Treadwell learned a lot in his explorations, about himself and nature. Animals looked up to him (many of the bears I am sure….and even the fox! They could have attacked him many times had they wanted to, but they respected him and yes, they were friends. Why can’t you be friends with animals?), kids looked up to him…and it gave him something to live for. How many people do you know who are miserable with their lives? Probably a lot. But Timothy was happy with what he had to live for. I’d rather die happy and fullfilled at 46, then miserable at 90. I think he made an impression on a countless number of people (ie. the school children who said that his visit was the highlight of their year), many more than Dale Curtis can say I am sure.

So don’t sympathize for Timothy Treadwell…that isn’t what he would want. All he would want would be for you to do your part and leave the Grizzlies alone. Did he do that? No, but I would rather see him out there in the woods than some piece of crap poacher. Because one day, when we have overpopulated earth and run out all the animals and torn down all the forests that keep this planet in somewhat of a balance, it will indirectly affect people like Dale Curtis. Because your kin will have to deal with our wastefulness of the planet!! Not enough people do their part and that is why there are people like Timothy. Because they get fed up. Am I like Timothy? Certainly not, but I do my part. Unfortunately I don’t have the balls to pick up the slack for People like Mr. Curtis.

In conclusion….Timothy, you did some good things, you did some weird things. But you did not die in vain.

oh yeah…on a side note….keep in mind that Timothy did live with the bears for (what was it??) 13 summers?? And he didn’t die until the last one. The bears were starving. They didn’t kill him when other food was plenitful. Timothy was a last resort. If Timothy had studied bears in a classroom for 12 years…then decided to go out into the wilderness and died in his first summer, that would be different.

John S,
Good luck and try to learn something from others mistakes, eh!

John S,

Oh yeah! bring a tracking device so your family can locate your remains.

Every animal in the wild dies an extremely violent and painful death. Tredwell wanted to live like a wild animal and unfortunately, the only real education he got from it is that animals rarely live a long time and violence for survival is a daily, sometimes hourly occurrance.

I think Tim was a good man and I admire him for his work.The poeple who put together this movies wanted Tim to look foolish. Did anyone actually see the bear kill Tim. oh yes the famous audio tape that no one has heard. What experince videographer would walk out of the tent without first taking off the cap. What videogrpher who knew any minute could be the best footage of his life would put his camera away and leave only six minutes of film left on the tape? I say Tim and his girl friend was killed and someone wants to cover it up. They said that he had 100 hours of film. Lets watch all of it and see what it shows before we make an opion on how crazy he was.Think about it. Do you think they actualy showed us his best footage out of 100 hours worth.

Here we go with another conspiracy theory. Why can’t we just take the story for what it is, a California nut-bar, supported by animal rights money to try to make a mis-informed (as usual)Disney-like attempt at showing the world that bears are man’s best, cuddly, teddy-bear friend.

You’ll never see this type of support for rattle snakes or junkyard rats. Cuddly little Winnie the Pooh’s are closer to our hearts.

u should just leave the griz alone…they dont come into your house wanting to document and exploit you do they…..and if they did id have to ask them to call ahead and ask if it was ok first..

THE MAN WHO DARED TO DREAM,perhaps we can all learn a little somthing form the life and death of (THE GRIZZLY MAN).Perhaps by society’s standards he was not playing with a full deck.But those of you who hide behind your dreams and make no effort to realize them, have no right to stand in judgment nor mock a man who dared to live his dream.And those who have choosen to make money by exploiting his life in a ill manner,are the real predators in this world.Give me the inocents of the likes of Timothy Treadwell any day,over the greed driven society,which fills its pockets upon the dreams of others.Get your own fucking dreams then talk to us when you have somthing to say that is worth listening to.

Fucking dreams? That would be a wet dream, would it not? The only wet dream Tredwell ended up with was a nightmare from grizzly saliva.

I would rather be around a man like Timothy than half the people I have heard on this site. But I still believe that there is more to the story than we have been told. None of it makes sense. The park says no one has been attack for over 25 years and all of a sudden they had to shoot 2 bears because they where under attack. Come on people, I can’t believe all of you can be miss led so easily. If you where all under the age of 5 I could understand. They claimed that no one was poaching but after Timothy death their have been 5 recorded poaching. But everyone said he was crazy saying that he new of people poaching. All I’m saying is just weigh the facts at hand and think about it.

So tell me jeff, what if anything have you ever done with your life other than find flaws in others. Your sad attempt at humor leads me to beleive,that you are proably the fist generation in your family to walk upright in your family. SOMTHING TO THINK ABOUT JEFFERY!

Good comments on here and soo much is possible. I just watched the movie and was blown away, Mr Treadwill was very unstable mentally and maybe it was some of his life experiences that led him to who he was in the end. Personally i look at his death as a form of assisted suicide. i actually believe this is the way he wanted to die. he did some great things by speaking with the children and provide plenty of information about the life of the bears. He showed us more of what we already knew, they are dangerous animals and this is how they live, and eventually this is what will happen when you interfere for too long. This man was lost and he knew it, he showed himself over n over with his tapes. Anyway, we as humans have a role to play in protecting and culling all animal populations to ensure they here for genereations. i don’t believe the animals are here just for food n fur but they are here and we can n do benefit from them. Trapping hunting are integral parts of wildlife managment and for those who don’t believe it, it’s as simple as witnessing n sitting down with knowledgeable individual. Point is though, he didn’t have to kill or sacrifice himself to inform us or protect the bears. Both of those efforts are being accomplished in safe n proven methods.

Kent,
Read your rantings from January 17 and tell me you have anything worthwhile to speak of. After your parents got married, were they still considered brother and sister? Try and get over those people issues that have obviously been haunting you in your life. Give us all a rundown on what you’ve done in your life and we’ll let you know if your the man with all the dreams or if your just another lucid dreamer.

Kent,
How’s this for living your dreams. I’ve climbed Mt. Robson, been to the North Pole, own an island in the Carribean, raised 9 children, fought in a war, can shoot a pie plate at 1,000 metres, had an affair with a Hollywood beauty, sailed solo from San Francisco to Fiji, drank more beer and pissed more blood than any 10 average dreamers but I was never stupid enough to want to pet a Grizzly. What’s your story?

The thing that surprises me is how many people just hate this guy and feel the need to pass judgment on everything he did so vituperatively. So he lived a life that you wouldn’t choose…so what? I don’t understand why people need to wig out about that. Nobody, including Herzog, is asking you to love him, give him money, or cry over his death. Do you get this furiously indignant over every lifestyle and outlook you don’t share? No wonder this world is so messed up, when many people find it impossible to observe a life different from their own without becoming personally offended and flying into a religiously fervent rage.

Andrea,
Having the freedom to argue and have a difference of opinion is what I fought for and many have died for so you could voice your opinion on this site without someone placing you in prison or in front of a firing squad. Differences of opinions has been going on since the dawn of mankind and will no doubt continue until the end of time. You can’t please everybody and you can never love everybody.

I didn’t say anything about having a difference of opinion. I’m talking about the level of hatred and fury he inspires.
In any case, spewing venom at a harmless, probably mentally ill dead guy is a pretty sad flagship for free speech, especially considering the kinds of things going on that actually DO hurt and kill people…whose biggest supporters, I suspect, are those who hate Treadwell the most.

I do not wish to recieve criticism for my own, personal opinion about Grizzly Man, just to be able to voice it freely here. Every single individual has a unique opinion and a right to voice it - who (any individual) has the right to say their opinion is the “right” one, and anothers opinion is the “wrong” one. The key word here is “opinion”! We are not talking about “facts” or “stats” but “opinions” and an opinion is just that - someones personal view on something. Okay enough of the explanation, now here is MY “opinion” on Grizzly Man:

The movie spelled out that Timothy Treadwell had many personal problems in his life and that certain events in his life led him to do what he did - try to live with Big, deadly bears year after year and not die. His success: 12 summers without dying. His failure: getting himself, his girlfriend and some bears killed.

If Timothy did not try and push it to the extreme by doing this, he, his girlfriend and a few bears would probably all still be alive and well (that is if Timothy instead sought some forms of therapy other than playing the “let’s see if a bear eats me this summer” game).

I do however believe that Timothy himself, gradually became obsessed with the bears and truly came to believe in his troubled mind that he was really doing something right and a benefit to the bears. Unfortunately, he paid the ultimate sacrifice in losing his life to the bears (but, remember how it did happen from the movie - the killer bear(s) were NOT the same ones he spent all those summers with, but some rogue(strange) bears that had moved into the area at a time when in all past summers Timothy was not there and already flown out - he came back this time unexpectedly and the strange bears were also not expecting him and were mean and hungry).

Okay, so there were some positives that came out of Timothy’s many years of bear saving efforts: - many kids DID learn more about bears and that they are deserving of being protected and saved; many people in general learned a lot more about bears; we learned from this movie many different things too, such as: don’t be a f****** idiot and do anything remotely similar to Timothy! Thank Timothy for teaching (and/or reminding) us all that, yes, life and nature are beautiful; life and nature are also deadly, and that life and nature includes death as part of it. Thank Timothy for revealing how mental illness can take over without treatment and make you believe in things that are not reality (like that you are invincible to all bears!). Thank Timothy for showing us all that there is a right way and a wrong way to go about pursuing a dream and in preserving wildlife - Timothy really thought (he TRULY thought in his OWN mind) that he was doing this the “right” way - in the end, we all see that he did it the “wrong” way - I agree with what he wanted as the end result - to show the world that animals and people can coexist and live peacefully on Earth together, I just don’t agree with what he decided was the way to go about it - A BIG HOWEVER THOUGH - in watching the Grizzly Man movie, he taught us and reminded us and got us thinking about many other things, some of which I pointed out earlier!

So too bad he, another human being and a couple of bears died that 13th summer, as it could have been prevented. But the good and positives that have come out of it, some of which I showed above, HAVE done something for us all. Tim, you were a sick guy but your heart was in the right. RIP.

Regardless of what anybody thinks of Tim, he spent the last tears of his life doing what he loved. This film showed me something I have never seen before, a person lving their life to the fullest. You might not think so but Treadwell did, and thats all that matters. Everyone who says he got what he deserves is very wrong. He got what he wanted. He said a number of times in the movie that he loved the bears and would die for them. I don’t think Timothy Treadwell would of wanted to die any other way than to be killed by th one thing in the world that made him feel alive. You shouldn’t ridicule him for being killed by a bear, you should respect him for living his life to the fullest.

Jeff,
When Kent was talking about the greed driven society, and it filling its pockets on the dreams of others, he was talking about douche bags like you. You have done all those things but which one was your dream. I don’t think any of those things was your dream. All thsoe “accomplishments ” are just bragging rights for someone whos dreams died long ago. Don’t be a hater.

Nick,
Jeff has had a lot of his life’s dreams realized and probably has a lot more to come. At least he has accomplished a significant amount of “living life to the fullest” as you said, compared to the average, stay home, wallowing in your beer and living life through the TV and wishing you’d stepped up to the plate and did something different in life. Is that your scenario, Nick, because we all detect a note of jealousy in your words.

I commend Jeff for his adventures and owe him a great debt of gratitude for stepping forward to unselfishly protect his homeland while I sat back and watched TV.

It’s very hard not to feel sorry for someone who is ripped apart and eaten by a bear, but Treadwell is the exception.
His “girlfriend” unfortunately bought into his bullshit story of him knowing how to keep from becoming a bear snack. I put girlfriend in quotes due to the clear latent homosexuality of Treadwell. Perhaps if he had come to grips with his sexuality, he wouldn’t have felt the need to film himself with bears and become excited over their feces.
This guy was a self-promoter who was more concerned with his own popularity than any freakin bear. He wouldn’t even allow his girlfriend in any of his shots to keep up the charade that he was by himself.
On his final day, Treadwell violated the number one rule of any park, “Don’t Feed the Bears.”

People=Shit. I saw the movie and yes the guy had issues but don’t we all. You are kidding yourself if you think you don’t. The guy had balls and did things only others wish they could have done. Never mind living with bears just to survive in Alaska is a challenge in its self. The guy was from Long Island New York so he was already a Bad Ass and not a little wimp like the Maggots in other parts of this country. This guy did nothing wrong to the bears and there is a lot worse that goes on in this World. Like the Circus, Rodeos, Terorists,Floods, Famine you get the point. Anyway Tim you are winning because people are talking and so you got your message across. We live in A piece of SHIT world. And it is because of the People that=SHIT. Oh and just so you can all get a mental image of me. IM a Big Bad Ass, jacked to the MAX with a lot of hate for Stuck up People. I protect the weak and also stand up for people like Tim. Id rather ride a Human then a Bull. And for all you rich Fur wearing people out there. Do not cross my Path without getting Spit upon your face…RIP TIM……..

I just watched The Grizzly Man . I only have one thing to comment on .
Timothy said over and over he was there to protect the bears .
Than why did he hide in the bushes while one of his own bears (that he named) had rocks thrown at him ?
This part didnt seem to make much sence to me .

I just watched the Grizzly Man. Wow. This guy is really crazy or was crazy. If he respected the bears he should know that bears have a one track mind. Evolution of bear has made their anatomy to be a high level consumer on the food pyramid. Survival and to produce offspring is the only concerns to a Grizzly Bear. The bears were very curious to Tim during the summer when food was avaliable. Then the salmon got scarce and Tim was the only thing to eat to store for the winter. Man and Bear dont go together for many reasons. Man is below the bear on a food chain without anyway to protect itself, and survival of the fittest fits perfect here because bear would be the fittest. That is where man brings technology into the equation. The weapon of choice the gun/bow. Just remember that humans are animals too.We have just went backwards in evolution and used technology for survival. Tim was a brave guy but in my eyes he went into the bears environment and invaded their breeding teritory.

Response to Ryan: No disrespect intended, however, your input is a little off. First, survival of the fittest is a term most biologists would like to see removed from all textbooks. Why? Because our concern is not just to cover physical stature but rather the organism’s population in a whole. Allele frequency and disruptive selection allowed us to evolve into a dominating species. We are on top of the food chain, with or without weapons. We have knowledge (inherited though genetics (allele’s)) that will most likely keep us on top for a long time. You must not forget that knowledge is the most powerful aspect of evolution. Weapons are by-products of our evolution, our fitness. And fitness refers to the reproductive contribution of a phenotype to subsequent generations relative to the contributions of other phenotypes, not strength.

O yea, one more thing. I hope he was not teaching the kids his techniques! That is the last thing they need to learn.

well turd on a bird

Please check my response 153 it went to Big bear photos circulating instead

I am a fishing guide in the area of alaska where treadwell was killed. I deal with some of those very same bears on a daily basis. In my professional opinion, treadwell had completly lost track of really. Further, I feel that he was quite obviously disturbed. The real tradegy is that the young woman had to die. His behavior should never be taken as a guideline. Grizzly bears reguire an immense amount of respect. Treadwell showed them none at all!! I have no pity.

Timothy Treadwell is the stupidest retard to ever walk the Earth. I watched the movie Grizzly Man and laughed my ass off. God does have a sense of humor you must admit. God put complete retards on this Earth for the rest of us intelligent people to laugh at and get a kick at. This movie was hilarious. I have never heard of such a retard moron in my life. Timothy Treadwell had brain damage man! He got what he deserved. I am glad that the grizzly bear ate him. I am a nature enthusiast myself, but I respect the animals in the woods and the mountains. Timothy Treadwell had absolutely no respect for these animals. Grizzly bears are super predators and any normal person realizes this and respects the grizzlies and their environment. Timothy Treadwell - You got what you deserved, you mental retard!!!

Ya know, this really disturbs me. All these comments saying that he got what he deserved are all insanely immature. Have some respect. Seriously. He was a very compassionate, loving person. I do believe after watching Grizzly Man that yes, maybe a little cookey - but not in a bad way. Not once did he ever suggest that he would never get hurt or killed by one of these bears. I believe he had an uncanny talent with working so closely with these animals. It seemed to me that not only did he respect these animals, but they also in turn respected him. If you ask me, in this screwed up world with drug dealers using puppies to transport heroin, murderers and rapists we could use a few more Timothy Treadwells in this world. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for being so insensitive and nasty.

your life is not a dress rehearsal..this is the real deal! and some people are lucky to live the life they choose. Its plain to see that his choice to live in the wild was what he wanted..even knowing the dangers it brought…Good For Him! An absolutely harmless man with a real big heart!…….free.

I can’t believe that after all of the comments from all of the people on this site, and still nobody knows where we can listen to the tape? There has to be a copy of it somewhere. Jewel said that she didn’t destroy it and probably never would, also, she had given it to somebody and needed a court order to get it back. Somebody has to have it. I have searched bearguts.com…good joke…don’t bother…rotten.com, I can’t find it anywhere…

Anyways, as for Treadwell, I cannot agree more that he was absolutely bipolar and had he been medicated his life would have been much different than it was. This disease will torture the mind of it’s sufferers and it is really sad to see that in the age that we live in with the miracles of modern medicine and he was still out there functioning in his madness and putting others in danger. Although I do find it quite incredible that he existed as long as he did with the bears, it was inevitable that he would die the way he did, and I am sure that he was aware of that. He was obviously fine with that, he said so many times in the film.

There should, however, be some kind of law against what he was doing, and if he was breaking the law, why was he not hauled out of there and locked up before he could endanger his girlfriend? She obviously loved him, but her life would have gone on without him, had he died out there without her.

Just a few thoughts that I am surprised nobody else mentioned before now…The film was on discovery last night and I am sure there will be more postings today…I am hope there will be more intelligent ones instead of the whole debate that the guy was crazy…get over it…

…and tell us where the audio tape is…..lmao…

There is a lot of evidence for this that I will not get into, but the more I watch the documentary the more I’m thinking this was a suicide and Amy was dragged down with him. At least one of the letters he wrote literally spells out that he wanted to morph into a grizzly. There was no coincidence that he was close from being picked up when he was attacked, but, like most suicides, he wanted us to know it was his own decision. He didn’t want to leave the Grizzly Maze.

His view of nature is misguided and off key. One clear example is when he finds the dead fox that was eaten by wolves. This is the wilderness where death sustains life, but he turns his head from the harsh realities that surround him.

His proclaimed love for the bear is personal, not respectful, and here is where I have issues with the message he portrays to children. He was mentally tortured by all that society represents and found relief from this by living reclusively in the wild and becoming increasingly envious of bears for their natural and simplistic lives.

I believe he wanted to record his final transformation into a grizzly, hence the audio and no video. I was watching the documentary last night and it was obvious to me, given the pauses on his last video, that he was contemplating something. His talk of death wasn’t foreboding, it was planning. I view his whole experience as a sort of cultish religious tragedy where in the end of his journey he sacrifices his body as a type of eucharist that will transform him into a bear, becoming one with them and protecting them. He may have chose which bear would help him through this transformation. His last conflict with civilization (argument with an airline representative over the validity of his ticket) was the last straw.

I think his friends that were involved in the movie are covering up the nature of his death (attack or suicide) and the audio that was found holds clues to project the best light possible. I can and hope I am wrong, but if this were the truth it would not surprise me and it would undermine all his claims.

As far as the documentary is concerned, I watched as objectively as I could. In the tragic end we learn that if you tally Man VS Nature, we will always lose. A message that is already familiar to us. My hopes are that something good can come from his experience. However, this story is not about the grizzlies, and it is not about Amy…

John, to suggest that this was a suicide is complete nonsense. First of all Amy went there of her own free will. She too knew the dangers of being there and by going accepted them. He stated a few times in the film that he did not want to die by a bears paws. He knew the damage they could do and the pain that he would go through. I don’t understand how you can think he wanted this; he was not a malicious man and would never want to hurt anyone, let alone his girlfriend. Infact the coroner stated that he was trying to get Amy to run away and leave him.

The only thing that I saw him do that I didn’t quite agree with was when he made the little trail for the salmon to follow. You really can’t screw with nature in that way. You have to let things take their natural course. As far as him mourning the loss of the little fox that died, I didn’t see anything wrong with that. It’s a sad thing to see a dead animal especially one who you have lived closely with. He was a smart man, he knew it was just the way it goes. Don’t confuse that. We still mourn the loss of loved ones even though we know that death is a part of life.

I knew about Timothy Treadwell Years and years ago I read about him and watched some of his early stuff. When the discovery channel started promoting the movie weeks ago “Grizzly Man”. I said wow someone did a movie about Tim. I have great empathy for people in this world. I have GREAT EMPATHY FOR TIM AND AMY! I do understand when someone is not being smart or just plain old putting themselves in a bad situation. Tim knew the deal living there in Alaska as well as did Amy. To suggest he went there with Amy to die is ridiculous!!!! SUSICIDE????? John are you that ignorant? Naive? Or just another American with a really bad opinion, outlook or just plain old bad attitude on life? WOW the guy (Timothy) may have been not exactly your average person up stairs, But oh well are any of us?
He was there stopping poaching! He was there to HELP!!! Not to harm anyone or anything! The man had a GREAT HUGH passion for wildlife, and obviously felt better living in the wild with the bears and other wild animals than with people such as you and me. Please people have some compassion! The man did not ask to be mauled by a bear, Yes he knew it was a possibility but please come on….. I don’t think anyone wants to endure what Tim and Amy went threw in the last moments of their lives.
What have you done in life to make such a Hugh impact John? In death he is more famous than in life? (Tim that is.) I relly think you need to be a little more compassionate and caring about your fellow humans. If everyone had that attitude this world WOULD be a better place.
I didn’t know Tim in life, but after watching the movie 2 times already, having a few years of knowledge about him, watching him in the past and reading about him in the past and knowing about the man and his life. I truly feel as if I knew him, and my sprits and thoughts are with Tim, Amy, and all there friends and family. Rest in peace Timothy you are now among the bears for eternity! Yes this is just another opinion and take it how you will.

Mark

I watched this movie with a couple of friends last night, and it struck all of us that Treadwell was actually after self gratification and was not really concerned with ‘helping’ these bears. As the film went on, I thought it became an expose of a very conflicted individual who happened to be in Alaska. I suppose he could have just as easily decided to swim with white sharks and ‘protect’ them from fishermen; it was his desire to flaunt danger that drove him to video the bears, perhaps as a substitute for his admitted alcohol and drug abuse. Manic depression, latent homosexuality, addictive personality, narcisissm (did anyone notice he was teasing his hair in between each video take?), this man was a psychiatrist’s dream. If he really had wanted to help protect these bears, I wonder why he didn’t go back to college, get a biology degree and get a job as a Parks Service Ranger. He then could have devoted his life to science instead of pop-science. Lastly,the problem I have with many who say that we should respect him for doing what he believed is that he has placed a lot of people and bears in danger by habituating the bears to humans. How many of these bears have forever lost their fear of man because of Treadwell and his psuedo-science?

I never heard of this guy until last night on Disc. Ch. It seems to me this guy was on a path of self destruction of wich his freinds and family were aware of. How anybody could spend two minutes with this guy and not realize he has serious anti-social issues, paranoia, as well as bipolar disorder is beyond me. His family, freinds, as well as the park service should have seen this, stepped up to the plate, and got his ass out of there to get him some help. He is not the type of person I would choose to be around but Im sure there were many people who loved him. He made some poor judgments through his mental illness wich cost some lives. I feel this could have been avoided if someone had tried harder to help him. It’s to bad society gets so much pleasure out of ridiculing the weak of mind and people who make mistakes. This,Im sure, is one reason he decided to go live with bears instead of people. He was a human being and deserves to be remembered for the good things he has done in life not for his faults. He deserves empathy not ridicule.

Jenny, I completely agree with you. John you are harsh and unnerving along with all the other people that say that Timothy deserved this. He loved those bears and other animals the same way all of us grow to love our animals. Just because they have huge claws instead of little cat ones, that we can manicure, does not make it any different. When animals were killed he was sad, the same that we or our kids would be if our pets, neighbor’s pets or just the baby birds in our front yards had died. In a sence he loved these animals as a child does, with no qualms about anything. He didn’t care that they were bigger than him, different, smelly, noisy, hairy or anything else that made them different than us humans. He saw something that was beautiful and he cared for it. He didn’t try to capture it and take it home so that he could have it forever, he saw them on their own territory and on their own terms. He never tried to change who they were or make them more popular for the films he took. He loved them for what made them tick and that’s all there is to it. There was nothing in the film that made me believe that he wanted to die, or that he made up his mind what day it was going to happen. He knew there were risks and he took precautions, as much as he could by staying away from mothers with their cubs, males fighting over mating rights and such.
The film did state several times that Amie was afraid, but all things we are intrigued by do scare us. She knew about bears, according to the film she had been around them for many years, since childhood. If she didn’t want to be there she could have left, but she wanted to help them as much as Timothy. How many of us go to the zoo to see the lions and such that could kill us in one blow, how many times do you see on the news that a child was malled by gorillas because they wanted to play. That was not the child’s fault, and I’m sure the parents had told the child several times not to do it. But it’s something that intrigues us. The child knew the animal was bigger than it but it still wanted to play, it didn’t beleive that the big animal would actually hurt it.
Timothy and Amie both knew the consequences of their expedition, and they chose to push on. They had left, and decided to go back. If Amie didn’t want to she could have stayed at the airport and went home instead of staying with Timothy. She made a conscious decision to stay and be with the bears. The only thing that I can see that may be why this happened is because all the bears that they knew were hybernating, so all the bears that they saw were knew to them. And yet, I’m sure that if they felt threatened at all they would have left with no hesitation. As the film stated, he would have rather died than to have a bear hurt. He would not have liked the fact that the bear 141 that killed them was then killed. In Timothy’s eyes, and I agree, the bear was just looking for food. It didn’t do anything wrong except, to the majority, eat humans. All the bear knew was that winter was coming and it needed a full belly if it was to survive the winter.
To suggest that Timothy was sick in the head is just outrageous. There was nothing wrong with him except that he loved these animals. He was able to survive 13 years of living with them. He didn’t just go a few days a year, he stayed for months on end. There are many of us that love certain animals and stay with them. There are people that love mountain lions, poisonous snakes, even people that have huge constrictors in their houses that could eat them our their children. So, how different are we really from Timothy? We all have an animal or two that have been demesticated for OUR enjoyment, not the animals. You could tell by the film that he was close to them but never got closer than the bear was comfortable. He never put himself in harms way. He was very cautious in the film and pictures that he took to make sure that the animals stayed safe. And it was even stated in the film that the bear 141 had been collared, a tooth taken from him, he may have not liked humans. But Timothy did not know that about him, we didn’t even know it was that bear until it was killed because it had killed Timothy. Had Timothy known that he may not have stayed anywhere near him. If you wanted to blame anyone for his death it would have to be the scientists that upset this old bear. That bear may not have liked humans, the film did say that it can happen. And I am intrigued by the fact that the 13 years that he was doing this there were few pochings and then the first year after his death there are six. To all of you that say he didn’t do anything to help these animals is completely wrong. He was obviously doing something for them otherwise they wouldn’t have survived.

I am sorry Kristina, but, you are wrong to think there was no mental illness here. I am not poking fun, by calling him down about it. I am simply stating that through my own experience with bipolar disorder, and knowing several different individuals including young boys and grown men, it is very obvious that Timothy Treadwell did suffer from this illness. The highs and the lows that Jewel said he was medicated for, and missed while he was medicated, is a classic symptom of why adult sufferers stop taking their meds and end up suicidal because of the lows that are so low they can barely be described to us who do not suffer them.

I will not sit here and say that he contributed nothing. His film and stillshots of these animals is fantastic. We would not have that had he not put himself in harm’s way to get it. But, he insisted this was not his reason for doing it. He was narcissistic. That is why he filmed it, and made sure he had the right color bandana on his head, or that his hair was combed and preened.

Also. the poaching did start again immediately after he was gone. I do believe he protected them from that. That point is also obvious.

But, then there is the fact that this was the first season that he went back in the fall when the bears would have been more unfamiliar and hungry before beginning their hibernation. This increased the danger greatly and he was aware, as I said earlier, that he would be in more danger.

He was, lastly, suicidal. That is why he was there in the end…his illness along with the end of his season with the bears and then the fat flight attendant was the end of everything for him. He went back, and that was NOT for the bears. It was for himself. To end it all. It was selfish, and he ended up taking 2 bears and his girlfriend with him. This is just another example of bipolar disorder going untreated and poeple suffering from it taking their lives along with others…whether it in a murder suicide, a car ‘accident’ or whatever.

He just chose to do it in the wilderness rather than in civilization.

He could have done much more working through organizations and pushing legislation rather than isolating himself in the wilderness completely cut off. He should have learned to use legitimate channels because that is the language of the world.

I think he was a man that had a great deal of respect bears, however I think he pushed his limits by thinking he could co-exist with the likes of a wild animal….(Thought: Did he really know as much about the animal as he thought he did?)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA god i wished i would of heard the aganizing screams of his demise. here was such a wack jop that deserved that.”ahhh bear”. “run away amie, get out of here” lol that made my day.

As an Alaskan born and raised, I would have to say what a brave and dumb thing to do. I applaud him for going after a dream. I applaud him for doing something that he felt strongly about and that got him out of his troubled past. I would have to say though, that the man definately needed counseling. He was so mentally unstable and afraid of life out in the real world with people that he chose a life , so dangerous and secluded away from the world, and a bit crazy and stupid. I’m so curious as to why he was so unstable, all I can come to is that it must have been his childhood. Maybe because of his unstableness he saved us all to whom he could have become if he didn’t choose this path. God and timothy only know that answer. Godspeed!

Tim was from New York right, I just want to say “We are all not that dumb and stupid as he! Thank God..” He played with a six shooter with one bullet in it for 13-15yrs plain and simple.

Oh one other thing TC “Right on”…

Mike from CT,
I am quite upset how you refer to the rest of us Americans that don’t live on the East coast as “maggots”. I live in Wyoming and I am most definatly not a maggot. You may be a certain kind of tough where you come from, but I come from a different kind of tough. I am up at five every morning until ten at night to take care of beef cattle that ends up in the belly of most Americans. How DARE you think you are so much better then us. I don’t think myself better than anyone in America, or the world for that matter and it upsets me that you think you are.
Another note: You mentioned how rodeo is so terrible…news flash, buddy…rodeo stock is some of the best treated animals in the world. They are an investment and it wouldn’t make much sense to abuse an investment. I would advise you to check out your facts from all sides of an issue before passing judgment.
Now, to the movie…Props to Tim for having the time of his life up with the bears. I’m sure he realized the dangers of what he’s doing. Nowhere in his tapes does he ask people to mourn in case something happened. The only concern I have is that people might think bears should be approached this way. However, I think this movie has generated enough media and personal attenetion that that shall be remedied.

I keep wondering if this could have been prevented either with intervention or medication, but not sure if it would have helped. I really feel sorry for him and his girlfriend because I don’t think he was mentally stable. Hopefully with all the attention this is getting people will be able to teach their children about wild animals and boundries that shouldn’t be crossed. At the very least we can see what happens when you do drugs, mock Jesus, and turn yourself into a social outcast. I’m not a Bible beater but even I know you don’t go around demanding God make it rain!

Why are we so judgemental of this man and the way he lead his life. Did he ask any of us for anything? Was he your friend, son, brother child.but, yet people in these letters feel a need to judge this man and girlfriend and the way they chose to live on the edge. I know a eighteen year old who is did the same thing he went to war. From what he told me gun doesn’t make a difference when its your time its your time. Yet no one calles him crazy he is just eighteen but this is what he wants. I ask you what is the difference? Why do we as human feel such a need to judge one another maybe that what drove him to the bears in first place a place where he could just be without the ugly ways and the ugly things we as humans do to each other day in and day out. Let this man and woman die with a little bit of peace and respect.

TINIE, YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE TO BE NOTICED YOUR GOING TO BE JUDGED. HE DID ASK SOMETHING OF US, NOTICE ME!!! HE SAID HE WANTED TO PROTECT THE BEARS. HE DID MORE HARM THAN GOOD. HE SHOULD BE JUDGED, SO MORE IDIOTS DON’T DO THE SAME THING. LEAVE THEM ALONE

I’m sorry but I think most of you are missingthe real pathos of this story. Its got nothing to do with bears people. I don’t think poor old Tim was particularly disturbed or deranged. He just chose to tell himself a particular story. He was like most people a story making animal ina harsh unforgiving universe. The story went like this “This is Mr Chocolate and this is Tabitha and you have to remain cool in the challenge” The REAL sadness lies in the fact that the universe like Herzog says was without any mercy

…and didn’t give a shit about the story he was telling himself and the bit parts he’d allocated for the other players.

Ok first off,this guy was a freaking idiot and got what he deserved!Secondly I want to say something about some of the lies on here from other idiots.Tim did NOT prevent poaching since after he died the bears that were killed by poachers were killed in another location then were he was!They would have been killed if he was still there since he would have been over a 100 miles from them!He could NOT have stoped poachers even if they would have come to where he was!The guy had no weapon and yelling at poachers doesnt scare them much.Tim could have stoped the people throwing rocks at the bear if he wanted to but instead he hid like a pussy and spewed threats under his breath!Another little fun fact is that in over 15 year 5 bears have been poached in the park and they were all killed at one time!

Now lets move on to how he was able to stay there for so long and not die.Did anyone forget that the year he died was the ONLY year that he stayed into fall?The bears that he loved so much and let him get close to him were bears that had NEVER been hunted and had no fear of man or guns.Tim also lived there in the summer when the bears are mostly eating a veggie diet and fish.Its in the spring when the bears hang out in the caliving areas to eat elk calves and then again in the fall they eat mostly meat to try to put on fast weight on before they hibernate!

This guy said he wanted to be a bear but had NOTHING to fight a bear with?All boar bears fight as they grow up and they fight for alot of reasons.they fight for mating,territory,food supplies and just to fight.Tim was an idiot for not bringing atleast a can of pepper spray to use just incase.

Tim said the park service was out to get him?The park service could have found him and made him leave at any time,even when he tried to “hide” his camp.Its funny in over 100 hrs of footage there is not ONE instance of anyone from the park service harrasing him.The park service warned him but he thought he was a god and could not die.

Tim did alot more damageto the bears then he did good.The bears that got used to him will die from a human now if they ever try and walk up to a human or if they dont run when a hunter comes calling.In the long run it will take a full generation of bears befor they are back to there natural ways around humans.

I think he might as well have put a gun in his gf’s mouth and pulled the trigger.Amy wated to leave before the fall since she knew what the feeding habbits of the bears were in the fall.Tim told her he would take care of her and look what happened!Amy was a smart girl and knew that them staying at a time when bears are looking for any protien they can find before there long sleep was a bad mistake,this is why she said she wanted to leave 3 weeks before she was killed.Amy could NOT leave after tim told the pilot they were staying before he asked her what she wanted!

I love how people spew there green peace beliefs about a subject they know nothing about.These bears are NOT disney animals and they will and do kill people!The fact that he made it as long as he did shows that bears are not always in a feeding frenzy and they can be wored with in certain times of the year.

Tim is NOT the only person to die from grizzlys,all’s you have to do is google grizzly attacks in Alaska to see for yourself how often this happens.Not all bears are killers,but ALL bears will kill in the right circumstance!

Tim was a fake his whole life,he lied to the people here (Alaska)and he led to people where ever he went.Tim was a drug abuser and womenizerwhen he could be.Tim tried to use his “fame” to get women to go and visit him at his camp and he got a few to do it.The stories they tell about the time they spent with him should have been told in the movie.The guy was a flake and would snap at the sound of the wind blowing.

My whole point is you people that spew your little rants about how good Tim was and how much he did for the bears are idiots!You know nothing about what went on here and know nothing about the habits of bears here.Tim did take a risk being here in the summer risk,a slight risk but a risk.Tim commited suicide by staying into the fall pattern and he should have know this,his gf did!

I hope this shows that some people that try and convince others that animals are just like humans are morons!They do not know good and bad,they do not weigh facts,they do not “think” about things and they do not have feelings like humans do!Anyone that says a bear can love need to come and watch a boar kill his cub or a sow kill her own cub when food is scarce!Animals are animals and when you mistake them for something else you die fast here!

To anyone that wants to say im the idiot or that i know nothing about wildlife here,i say come to Alaska! I will bring you to where Tim died in the fall and you can try and make it one week!If you wont do that then stick it up your ass!People who live in condo’s and watch the nature channel in between helping a few cats and dogs at the humane society should not try and pretend they know anything about my world up here!

I’m going to try and stay unjudgmental. In other words, I won’t call him a whacko or left-wing tree hugger or whatever, but I wil say this much, whatever he was doing he must have been doing for himself, because I never got any hint that the bears benefited.

When he said he was trying to protect “these animals” did he mean the species or the individual animals, because on both scales he failed. Species protection would mean to protect their habitat or learn more about bear behaviors in order to place better game and park management policies in place. Individiual protection means instilling a healthy fear of humans into these bears, not habituating them to the presence of humans. If I were a poacher, I’d be going right after Mr. Chocolate now, because I know that poor beast isn’t going to run from the sight of a bipedal. I could get within handgun range, ferchrissake, thanks to Treadwell.

And to compare Treadwell to Jane Goodall is a joke. Dr. Goodall is trained and educated in human and animal behavior. She writes scientific papers that are subject to peer review. She makes observations, formulates hypotheses, and comes to conclusions. She is a scientist and acts like one. She is trying to advance knowledge of the species she studied and of ourselves as a species. She has worked tirelessly with governments in trying to expand protections. Treadwell did none of this.

In the final analysis, his relationship with the bears was purely to serve his own purposes. Whether those purposes were good-intentioned or not is open to debate, but to me they run from either self-healing, self-serving, to self-promoting, but in the end it starts with self. Please don’t misunderstand me either, I don’t think these are necessarily bad motivations, because these are the basis for advancement in general, but at least let’s be honest about the man.

I thank Herzog for his film, and I thank Timothy Treadwell, for reminding us to tread carefully through the wild. Timothy Treadwell treaded unwell onto nature’s dinner plate. He predicted his own death throughout Herzog’s documentary. Death by nature was expected to happen by Treadwell himself. He knew that he may be involved in the natural food chain at any given moment. It doesn’t matter if Treadwell was mentally sick, or that he came from California. It doesn’t matter that he was a liar, or that he had an addictive personalty. What matters, is that he was a dedicated human being, that wanted to reconfirm to all of us that nature is still operating at it’s finest. It was completely normal what happened to Treadwell. It was nature being nature. Under the circumstances, his death is not a tragic event. It was a normal everyday event, expected to occur. Treadwell threw himself at nature’s appetite for necessary continuance. At nature’s dinner plate, the bear ate Treadwell, just like Treadwell ate his baked beans, tearing open the can with a sharp object, biting into the beans, swallowing, and consuming them to survive.

I saw the movie last night, and only by accident. Before this, I had remembered hearing about his death but had no idea who he and his girlfriend were. Now that I have seen the movie, I feel no pity for him. Yes, it is sad that he had to die the way he did, and yes, I am a bit disturbed at the details of them being eaten and whatnot. However, I’m also disappointed…I would have liked to hear the audio tape myself. Unfortunately, all I get is to see other’s reactions. It’s not that I’m amused by death or love hearing people in their dying moments, but I feel it would be almost like ‘closure’ even though I’m not grieving. So maybe more like ‘ a solid ending’ to this story. Tim himself, I don’t feel sorry for. He knew the risks–or he should have–but he continued to act as though he was dealing with domesticated cats rather than wild animals that could (as he said) decapitate a person. The thing that gets to me is that his girlfriend had to die too, and she didn’t love bears like he did and was quite afraid of them. I think it was selfish of him to endanger another life like that, even if she didn’t run away when he told her to. “Wacko” would be the first word that I could think to describe him, but he might’ve been more than that–I didn’t know him. I’m just saying that he could’ve just as easily gotten therapy and saved his life as he could have gone out there and gotten eaten.

I watched it on TV last night, and I’m convinced that he did not morph into a grizzly, but he did morph into Queer Eye’s Carson Kressley. Maybe in the future, we’ll see him decorating homes in a bear motif. Gee, I hope they like it.

Treadwells heart may have been in the right place. But his massive self induced,self absorbed ego took over long before that fucking bear looked at him not as a friend to fight for his cause,but a hot plate with the girl thrown in as a after dinner mint.As I watched the movie and saw Treadwell begin to believe in his own bullshit.I WANT TO SEE THE SCENE WHEN HE DIPPED HIS COCK IN PEANUT BUTTER AND LET THOSE FOXES GO FUCKIN CRAZY!

I think folks get so indignant about this guy because you get hurt a little bit when you find out he lost his life doing something so foolish. I agreed with mostly nothing he was doing but you could not help but like him….
The truth is that humans have a soul and we do not understand the soulessness of an animal so savage, not always savage but sooner or later savage….Bears are to be admired, repected, but never trusted….Timothy was a fool, a likable fool but never the less a fool.

I do not understand why tragedy always has to be turned into a punchline…You know, that is why there are folks like Timothy…All they want is to be taken seriously…..They can not find it in society because in a way, humans try to destroy there own, just like the bears, only in a much slower more unforgiving process. The worst part is that we know better…….The bears have an excuse…..we do not…

I think he was a well respected person who loved and wanted to study the bears and their ways in their habitat alone in the waters. he took pictures of the bears while he was alone. when he was very alone. i mean so alone he took naughty pictures of them. those bears loved it.what a naughty show

Hey Its me and i am still alive. i am taking pictures of a bear as we speak. oh no, I am being chased by a ginormous bear, but I am still taking pictures for some reason. but its still normal for me to still take pictures because my name is tim treadwell and i live with bears and love them. it makes me super horny because i stick my schlong in bear food and have them lick it. ha ha arn’t i funny.

….what an idiot. That’s all I have to say about that!

My husband and I watched the documentary the other night. We had different views about Timothy and the reasoning behind it. I don’t believe that Timothy had a death wish. I think Timothy truly believed that he had an entitlement to nature. Believing within the depts of his soul that he was such a good person inside, that nature would not allow his demise by a bear.
It was obvious that Timothy was insecure living the everyday life that the majority of us have to live. If my husband and I could, we would pack up now and move to Alaska, this is our dream. To escape our ratrace and live life in harmony amongst the bear, not with the bear.
This is the difference between Timothy and ourselves, he followed his dream and we have yet to. Timothy took that chance and lived for over 13 years sharing it. If we could all be that lucky, not that I personally would want to die by one too many a bear, maybe 1 to many a beer……..
Cheers to You Timothy and your friend that died with you that day. I hope and pray that she too had lived her life to the fullest. Apprently she loved you for who you were, may we all find a love like that. I don’t think you were soul mates, but I do think you were loved that day and I think she was as well. I know you didn’t believe in God but I beieve God believed in you and you’re both in his hands now.
Sorry, that we had never knew of you until after your death.

Uh oh….here comes the flood of the junior high-esque comments. I guess your mommys and daddys forget to set the parental controls on Tivo.

Everyone keeps talking about how Timothy had no respect for the bears. Wrong. You guys are the ones with no respect. Hmm…and you wonder why he wanted to spend every summer in the wilderness of Alaska. Nice job human race!

Jenny,
To respect the bears, you have to respect what they could do to you. And by doing that, you have to respect their space. Timmothy did niether.

Casey,
Tim knew exactly what they could do; he stated it many, many times. As far as I could tell, Tim never tried to walk too far towards them. He always had a nice distance between himself and the bears. They came to HIM; he didn’t force himself upon them, they made a conscious effort to approach him. He had the utmost respect for those bears.

Everyone has their opinions, and I understand that. We can all agree to disagree but what tiffs me is how disrespectful everyone is about the situation.

Timothey Treadwell got eaten by a bear while living his dream. Good for him, but claiming him to be a protector of the bears is ridiculous. If anything all he did was take a step to kill the bears. Now that they are accostomed to having human(s) around perhaps they’ll stick around next time the hunters come for them.

As if that wasn’t enought, I believe his irresponsibility is what killed Amie Huguenard. He survived for 13 summers by knowing when to be dominant and when to act submissive. Knowing the right limits kept him alive as long as it did, but how anyone could think to place Amie in that same enviroment i can’t understand. She was admittedly afraid of the bears, and when your afraid you don’t think straight, and in that position not thinking is something you can’t afford to do.

I applaud Tim for being able to coexist with the bears for as long as he did, though his motivations were a bit off. As for the deaths of him and his partner, I blame him alone for what happened. A bear that’s too old to hunt is naturally going to find an easy source of food, and a scared woman and over confident man are about as easy as it comes when you’re an alaskan grizzly.

If anyone treads on my territory, trying to take pictures of me and my family, I will chomp you up just like you know who. Stay away from our home, and you will not be killed. Just as you would kill us, if we came to your home, we will continue to do the same to you. We are getting very pissed off at you insane humans for coming into our homeland. Even the foxes here are ready to kick some ass. STAY THE HELL AWAY. Thank you. GRRRRRRRRRRR

I just saw this movie on Discovery and was in disbelief that someone could be so foolish as to think they could live amongst the bears and not get eaten. Bears are here to survive and there basic instinct is to eat for survival. I totally agreeed with the pilot in the beginning that had to clean up the mess that Tim got what he deserved. It is sad though that he had to take his girlfriend down with him. She too was a fool for even thinking about accomodating him on his trips. Believe me, that isn’t LOVE. I am still confused as to what was he protecting the bears from and how did he respect them and their environment. I just don’t see the respect he talks about. If he respected them, he should have left them alone. If you want to observe animals in their wild habitat, set-up a camera that you can monitor this. You don’t have to get up close and personal to accomplish this.

What I really think was happening here is that this was a very mentally unstable guy. He tried to get into acting with no luck. He wanted the notariety and the celebrity status. What a way to do it by doing something totally off the wall to get the media attention. He did this for his own ego and claim to fame. This wasn’t about the bears. This was about Tim and how it could benefit him. Do you really think he wanted to die at the hand of a bear? He mentioned over and over of how he didn’t want to be attacked by a bear. This tells me he did this to promote himself. The other sad part is that his supporters let him die. Every time they gave him money to support this cause it put him in danger. What ever happened to striaght forward honesty. Didn’t anyone like his family, close friends ever say Tim let’s get you the necessary medical help you deserve. To me that is respect. Once again another senseless death that didn’t need to happen.

no one deserves it, except mabey people like hitler, saddam and the like. It would have been nice if some of his friends in the video did try to do more intervention for his mental well being. Suffering from any mental illness is a hell on earth that none of us should have to endure and I know, having been down a very deep and dark hole several times. I do feel so very empathetic for Timothy, so very sorry for Amy who should not have been there either, for all the people that helped him finance his illusion and now somehow try to make peace with their contribution to his ultimate demise. I agree that while food was abundant the bears were content and with a sixth sense may have smelled the bipolor cancer within him and given him wide margin. What a sad story was told accompanied with a beautiful musical score. either way look at all the emotion that has been raised by the subject matter. seperates the compasinate and rational minded human beings from the mindless aggressive animals and I only mean the responses I have read here…..

Lions, tigers and bears do not want to be your friend. They want to bite your head off, drag you into the thicket and finish you off later. Case closed.

I was wondering if there was a way to get the audio or at least a writing of the video that was on when he was killed. Thanks for the help.
cheers,
J

Neil,
Well written!

I didn’t like the guy. he always looked at me funny and he never gave me any fucking chocolate! every time I took a shit or licked myself -guess what? There’s fucking Tim! (go figure).

I belive that there is a thin line between bravery and stupidity and Tim crossed it. It seems to me in the movie Tim felt like he could be a bear and could be friends with them. He clamied to know alot about bears but someone who knows alot about bears should know almost all animals act of instinct. The bears tolerated him not befriended. Tim of all people who claimed to know so much should have known that.
In regard to his death it is unfortunate but it is his fault he should have known better.
One thing I did notice is why does everyone posting hate people. Sure there is prolems with the human race but I would rather be a human than a bear.

Jeremiah,

Got to this website and you can read a transcript of the audio.

http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html

Timothy Treadwell is still alive and living in the alaskan wilderness. He faked his own death to keep people from bothering him while he goes on his “expeditions”.

Is there any way to get the audio tape of that night Timothy and his girlfriend where killed?

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We just watched the doc in a class today and the whole thing is disturbing. Tim had serious mental issues that he “addressed” with the bear research. He was running from his life and, I’m sorry, “created” a lot of stuff so that he could cope. He passed this off as research. Where is all the scientific research he gathered in 13 years? Jane Goodall was an accomplished, recognized scientist, Tim was just a lost soul looking for something to live for. Watching the film, I got the impression that Tim WANTED to die at the paws of a bear and I feel he would’ve kept going back until that happened. I don’t have sympathy for him at all as he died as he wanted, but it’s REALLY jacked up to have gotten his girlfriend involved. She was frightened of the bears and didn’t have a good feeling about them (watch the doc), so why was she there? Because Tim undoubtedly convinced her that it was going to be o.k. If he’s determined to die by bear, fine, but don’t talk someone else into suffering the same fate. And what for? Tw