Comments on: Please, Not Another Wiki http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/ A bunch of stuff I would have emailed you about. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:39:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: LeahLeez http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-177888 LeahLeez Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:51:30 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-177888 In terms of using wiki for sharing knowledge I agree - we could all use wikipedia as our one source of knowledge sharing, but what about using wiki to drive creativity or even entertainment? I've just started work on a new project www.wherearethejoneses.com is an online daily comedy sitcom which uses wiki based technology to allow the community to upload scripts, sctorylines, characters, locations etc. In terms of entertainment it is very innovative and revolutionary. I would love to know your thoughts on the site and use of wiki. www.wherearethejoneses.com In terms of using wiki for sharing knowledge I agree - we could all use wikipedia as our one source of knowledge sharing, but what about using wiki to drive creativity or even entertainment? I’ve just started work on a new project http://www.wherearethejoneses.com is an online daily comedy sitcom which uses wiki based technology to allow the community to upload scripts, sctorylines, characters, locations etc. In terms of entertainment it is very innovative and revolutionary.

I would love to know your thoughts on the site and use of wiki. http://www.wherearethejoneses.com

]]> By: Sean http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-173722 Sean Tue, 15 May 2007 20:07:29 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-173722 Hi. I loved your article. I think there is both some truth, and some false hood in what you say. On the one hand, it might not make sense to have the entire bod of human knowledge in more then one place, but then again - maybe it is just plain "safer" for humanity to have more then one. Can people have more then one opinion on how to describe what an Apple is or what a Dog is? The internet will ultimately become a better place with more then one Wiki. That is of course because I wrote Yet Another Wiki from scratch. I tried to put my own spin on it, adding a robot instead of a plain jane search engine. Medium success so far. Anyways, great article. Hi. I loved your article. I think there is both some truth, and some false hood in what you say. On the one hand, it might not make sense to have the entire bod of human knowledge in more then one place, but then again - maybe it is just plain “safer” for humanity to have more then one.

Can people have more then one opinion on how to describe what an Apple is or what a Dog is?

The internet will ultimately become a better place with more then one Wiki. That is of course because I wrote Yet Another Wiki from scratch. I tried to put my own spin on it, adding a robot instead of a plain jane search engine. Medium success so far.

Anyways, great article.

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]]> By: Information Wants To Be Free » Blog Archive » Let 100 wikis bloom? http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-171552 Information Wants To Be Free » Blog Archive » Let 100 wikis bloom? Wed, 02 May 2007 02:18:55 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-171552 [...] Please, Not Another Wiki Casey Bisson complains about the proliferation of wikis: Perhaps I cringe at any suggestion to [...] [...] Please, Not Another Wiki Casey Bisson complains about the proliferation of wikis: Perhaps I cringe at any suggestion to [...]

]]> By: Ryan Deschamps http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-171158 Ryan Deschamps Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:20:15 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-171158 I find that software support wikis are immensely useful, since Wikipedia is not going to get into the nitty-gritty of how to develop templates for Drupal. I also like wikis for "one-off" projects like organizing a conference, or even attending a conference. Seeing people's schedules for Computers in Libraries was quite helpful to me when I was there. And using a wiki for presentations is not the worst thing you could do. That said, coming up for a wiki, hoping that everyone will just join in on your pet project is a certainly misguided and often performed waste of virtual space. I find that software support wikis are immensely useful, since Wikipedia is not going to get into the nitty-gritty of how to develop templates for Drupal.

I also like wikis for “one-off” projects like organizing a conference, or even attending a conference. Seeing people’s schedules for Computers in Libraries was quite helpful to me when I was there.

And using a wiki for presentations is not the worst thing you could do.

That said, coming up for a wiki, hoping that everyone will just join in on your pet project is a certainly misguided and often performed waste of virtual space.

]]> By: Benjamin http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-171030 Benjamin Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:04:40 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-171030 "It takes a whole community to raise a wiki" -- and the wiki doesn't have the market value of a self-proclaiming identity until its content is sufficient in scope to warrant people seeking it out as a source of information. “It takes a whole community to raise a wiki” — and the wiki doesn’t have the market value of a self-proclaiming identity until its content is sufficient in scope to warrant people seeking it out as a source of information.

]]> By: Michele Ann Jenkins http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-171020 Michele Ann Jenkins Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:03:00 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-171020 Hi, Interesting post, but I think you're overlooking some issues: The idea that there only needs to be one wiki seems a little silly to me. There's more than one wiki for the same reason there's more than one book in the library. Wikis have unique goals, styles, policies, and communities-- not to mention site structure and software. For example, no one takes an encyclopedia on vacation. They take a travel guide because it has relevant information (i.e. hotels, taxis, restaurants), a specific tone and structure that makes it a useful document. Wikitravel has as one of its goals the ability to print out a page and stick it in your backpack for offline travel use. The site also has software extensions specific to travel such as mapping and geographical hierarchy. If you're interested in knowing why people contribute to wikis, you may want to take a look at the Open Source / Free Software software movement that has produce the Linux OS. A good starting point is Eric S. Raymond's Homesteading in the Noosphere Evan Prodromou (the founder of Wikitravel) gave a talk at this years SxSw on commercialization and wikis. You can find slides at http://evan.prodromou.name/Talks/SXSW07 and a summary at http://liz-henry.blogspot.com/2007/03/sxswi-panel-on-commercialization-of.html There's a lot more out there, but this should get you started. Thanks, michele ann jenkins co-founder, wikitravel Hi,

Interesting post, but I think you’re overlooking some issues:

The idea that there only needs to be one wiki seems a little silly to me. There’s more than one wiki for the same reason there’s more than one book in the library. Wikis have unique goals, styles, policies, and communities– not to mention site structure and software.

For example, no one takes an encyclopedia on vacation. They take a travel guide because it has relevant information (i.e. hotels, taxis, restaurants), a specific tone and structure that makes it a useful document. Wikitravel has as one of its goals the ability to print out a page and stick it in your backpack for offline travel use. The site also has software extensions specific to travel such as mapping and geographical hierarchy.

If you’re interested in knowing why people contribute to wikis, you may want to take a look at the Open Source / Free Software software movement that has produce the Linux OS. A good starting point is Eric S. Raymond’s Homesteading in the Noosphere

Evan Prodromou (the founder of Wikitravel) gave a talk at this years SxSw on commercialization and wikis. You can find slides at http://evan.prodromou.name/Talks/SXSW07 and a summary at http://liz-henry.blogspot.com/2007/03/sxswi-panel-on-commercialization-of.html

There’s a lot more out there, but this should get you started.

Thanks,
michele ann jenkins
co-founder, wikitravel

]]> By: No Sheep » Which Wiki? Marvel.com vs Wikipedia http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-171013 No Sheep » Which Wiki? Marvel.com vs Wikipedia Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:00:34 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-171013 [...] Casey’s recent post: “Please, Not Another Wiki”, I felt some serious resonance with an internal debate I’m having. In short, Casey states [...] [...] Casey’s recent post: “Please, Not Another Wiki”, I felt some serious resonance with an internal debate I’m having. In short, Casey states [...]

]]> By: jennimi http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/blogs-vs-wikis/#comment-170971 jennimi Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:10:54 +0000 http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10926/#blogs-vs-wikis#comment-170971 I have been exploring the usefulness of wikis in different situations and feel there is real potential there if, as you say, critical mass is achieved. Thing is, as an academic librarian, I am also excited when I see folks try new things (even fail! but hopefully, learn something?). I don't think they're the "end all" or perfect for every use requiring easy online editing across a group of folks.... but I'd like to be open to the potentials. And... I LOVE Wikipedia. I know that's a bit of a sacrilege to admit in many circles, but I have found that for me the positives outweigh the negatives. Interesting post, especially the personal "ownership"T thoughts. Thank you. I have been exploring the usefulness of wikis in different situations and feel there is real potential there if, as you say, critical mass is achieved. Thing is, as an academic librarian, I am also excited when I see folks try new things (even fail! but hopefully, learn something?). I don’t think they’re the “end all” or perfect for every use requiring easy online editing across a group of folks…. but I’d like to be open to the potentials.

And… I LOVE Wikipedia. I know that’s a bit of a sacrilege to admit in many circles, but I have found that for me the positives outweigh the negatives.

Interesting post, especially the personal “ownership”T thoughts. Thank you.

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