Comments on: Grizzly Man http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/ A bunch of stuff I would have emailed you about. Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:08:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Debbie http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-33/#comment-278954 Debbie Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:44:46 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-278954 I just finished watching the Grizzly Man with Timothy Treadwell. I fail to see what he did to benefit the bears...also I am still trying to figure out what made him an expert! Was he an expert because he was the only one there? This movie was shown to a group of high school students and the general opinion was...He was an idiot. The movie was a waste of money. We were expecting to see an informational video and instead we saw the crazy man and listened to his idiotic ramblings and profanity. If he was such a nature lover then he would've known that flies will land on dead animals...its the course of nature! I just finished watching the Grizzly Man with Timothy Treadwell. I fail to see what he did to benefit the bears…also I am still trying to figure out what made him an expert! Was he an expert because he was the only one there? This movie was shown to a group of high school students and the general opinion was…He was an idiot. The movie was a waste of money. We were expecting to see an informational video and instead we saw the crazy man and listened to his idiotic ramblings and profanity. If he was such a nature lover then he would’ve known that flies will land on dead animals…its the course of nature!

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By: Zinger http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-193924 Zinger Sun, 11 May 2008 06:42:34 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-193924 Let's see . . . Chris McCandless . . . what can one say? Intelligent but eccentric. Definitely bright, but not very smart. Survival skills are learned from others . . . not figured out along the way in some lame personal test pitting yourself against the wilderness. McCandless had narrowly survived one other of these personal test. Why he wanted to keep doing this is beyond reason. The sad part is that he could have easily survived by just knowing there was a cabin 6 miles upstream from the bus. There he would have found food and shelter. Or, by just finding a braided crossing in the river, he could have walked out. McCandless died because of his gross ignorance . . . not much of a grand adventure in my opinion. Let’s see . . . Chris McCandless . . . what can one say? Intelligent but eccentric. Definitely bright, but not very smart. Survival skills are learned from others . . . not figured out along the way in some lame personal test pitting yourself against the wilderness.

McCandless had narrowly survived one other of these personal test. Why he wanted to keep doing this is beyond reason. The sad part is that he could have easily survived by just knowing there was a cabin 6 miles upstream from the bus. There he would have found food and shelter. Or, by just finding a braided crossing in the river, he could have walked out. McCandless died because of his gross ignorance . . . not much of a grand adventure in my opinion.

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By: TKO http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-191327 TKO Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:49:15 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-191327 Sorry correction, he did not get himself killed but died the slow horrible death of starvation. Sorry correction, he did not get himself killed but died the slow horrible death of starvation.

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By: TKO http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-191326 TKO Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:45:24 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-191326 It has been awhile since i have posted i just checked back to see what was up. I would like to open a new subject for whosoever will, it is concerning a movie i just watched called Into the Wild. I wonder if anybody has a comment about this Chris McCandless guy who got himself killed near the Denali National Forest in Alaska. It has been awhile since i have posted i just checked back to see what was up. I would like to open a new subject for whosoever will, it is concerning a movie i just watched called Into the Wild. I wonder if anybody has a comment about this Chris McCandless guy who got himself killed near the Denali National Forest in Alaska.

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By: anomunous http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-188277 anomunous Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:56:15 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-188277 I just watched the movie and the whole time i was waiting to see or hear the attack of witch ended timmoty and amies life.It was very disappointing. I just watched the movie and the whole time i was waiting to see or hear the attack of witch ended timmoty and amies life.It was very disappointing.

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By: Bruce J. http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-188276 Bruce J. Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:53:58 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-188276 I just saw the documentary for Tim 1/20 - 1/21/08 in the wee hours of the morning. I was deeply disturbed by Tim's chances that he took with natures most feared animals. I truly believe in his heart he wanted the best for the Grizzly's an that is commendable. I only wished there was a person(s) that could have better influenced him in his endeavors. It was such a shame to loose him for what I am sure many feel very risky chances getting so close and almost tempting faith. I was deeply moved by the show last night and have found myself thinking of him and wishing I could have helped him stay alive to bring more of his talents to the world. I am sure Tim is looking down and is very please that so many morn and appreciate his work. Tim Tredwell I never met you but I would have been proud to have.. I just saw the documentary for Tim 1/20 – 1/21/08 in the wee hours of the morning. I was deeply disturbed by Tim’s chances that he took with natures most feared animals. I truly believe in his heart he wanted the best for the Grizzly’s an that is commendable. I only wished there was a person(s) that could have better influenced him in his endeavors. It was such a shame to loose him for what I am sure many feel very risky chances getting so close and almost tempting faith. I was deeply moved by the show last night and have found myself thinking of him and wishing I could have helped him stay alive to bring more of his talents to the world.

I am sure Tim is looking down and is very please that so many morn and appreciate his work.

Tim Tredwell I never met you but I would have been proud to have..

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By: Penny http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-187121 Penny Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:11:57 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-187121 He did NOT show the world what these bears are like; other than when he was killed and eaten. What he did is cause them to lose their "fear" of humans, setting them up to be killed, or worse yet, causing them to kill other humans. I certainly am not happy that he and his girlfriend were killed; but he was wrong in his beliefs about these bears. While he might have gotten some beautiful footage, I don't think he taught people the truth about these animals. He should have been removed and banned from the park years earlier, when he refuse to follow the rules that are in place to protect bears as well as humans. Not only did he get himself and his girlfriend killed, but may have set the stage for some other fool to get killed trying to "pet" bears and other such nonsense they saw him do. In the end, he also caused the death of two of the very bears he claimed to want to protect; and he proved the sayings about bears that are used to humans always end up as dead bears. He did NOT show the world what these bears are like; other than when he was killed and eaten. What he did is cause them to lose their “fear” of humans, setting them up to be killed, or worse yet, causing them to kill other humans.
I certainly am not happy that he and his girlfriend were killed; but he was wrong in his beliefs about these bears. While he might have gotten some beautiful footage, I don’t think he taught people the truth about these animals.
He should have been removed and banned from the park years earlier, when he refuse to follow the rules that are in place to protect bears as well as humans. Not only did he get himself and his girlfriend killed, but may have set the stage for some other fool to get killed trying to “pet” bears and other such nonsense they saw him do. In the end, he also caused the death of two of the very bears he claimed to want to protect; and he proved the sayings about bears that are used to humans always end up as dead bears.

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By: Gina http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-187108 Gina Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:47:53 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-187108 First I would like to say that these bears were on a national park. They were already protected by the government. All I can say is that Timothy Treadwell was truly a demented individual who really got what he deserved. He should have had more respect for the grizzly. What a true fucking asshole. First I would like to say that these bears were on a national park. They were already protected by the government. All I can say is that Timothy Treadwell was truly a demented individual who really got what he deserved. He should have had more respect for the grizzly. What a true fucking asshole.

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By: Timmy Horribilis http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-180521 Timmy Horribilis Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:13:47 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-180521 Well, that depends on what you call inappropriate, but yes, some of his activities with children were not proper. You might also note there were rumors of illegal drugs while he was in Katmai. My source tells me that Treadwell wasn't all he appeared to be at all. Well, that depends on what you call inappropriate, but yes, some of his activities with children were not proper.

You might also note there were rumors of illegal drugs while he was in Katmai. My source tells me that Treadwell wasn’t all he appeared to be at all.

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By: Zinger http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-179690 Zinger Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:43:54 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-179690 timmy did you hear any rumors about his inappropriate involvment with children? timmy

did you hear any rumors about his inappropriate involvment with children?

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By: Timmy Horribilis http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-179367 Timmy Horribilis Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:52:34 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-179367 Yeah, I heard the same thing. Yeah, I heard the same thing.

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By: Zinger http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-179123 Zinger Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:47:09 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-179123 hi timmy yes, it appears dicaprio shelved the project. i heard the same thing about treadwell. i heard there is new information coming out involving illegal activities. very damning. there is also something about an affair with one of his supporters that will be revealed soon. how true this is i do not know. hi timmy

yes, it appears dicaprio shelved the project. i heard the same thing about treadwell. i heard there is new information coming out involving illegal activities. very damning. there is also something about an affair with one of his supporters that will be revealed soon. how true this is i do not know.

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By: Timmy Horribilis http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-178024 Timmy Horribilis Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:56:13 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-178024 Does anyone know if Leonardo DiCaprio has abandoned his film project on Treadwell? I heard he had second thoughts after finding out the real truth about Treadwell. Does anyone know if Leonardo DiCaprio has abandoned his film project on Treadwell? I heard he had second thoughts after finding out the real truth about Treadwell.

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-176713 Oh, Get Real Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:15:29 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-176713 AM, Apparently, he's doing well. He's been back in surgery at least once. They say it will take several more surgeries to fix the damage. AM,

Apparently, he’s doing well. He’s been back in surgery at least once. They say it will take several more surgeries to fix the damage.

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By: Aunt Melissa http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-176704 Aunt Melissa Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:27:01 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-176704 Very good TKO, Glad to see you're back in the house again. I'm sure Jim Cole would find that song amusing. I haven't heard much about how the guy is doing. But he's anxious to get better so he can return to his passion, harassing bears with cameras shoved in their faces. And yes I remember that song. Very good TKO,

Glad to see you’re back in the house again. I’m sure Jim Cole would find that song amusing. I haven’t heard much about how the guy is doing. But he’s anxious to get better so he can return to his passion, harassing bears with cameras shoved in their faces.
And yes I remember that song.

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By: TKO http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-176670 TKO Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:47:41 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-176670 SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE BAND IN THE 70'S PLAYER, SING THIS SONG WITH THE TUNE"BABY COME BACK" ALL DAY LONG PLAYING WITH ALL MY GRIZZLY FRIENDS,.. TRYING TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE I SHOULD BE HERE HERE..... BUT WHEN THAT MORNING CAME AND THE BEAR DRUG ME OUT OF THE TENT,... HOW I WISHED TO GOD I DIDN'T CAMP HERE.... GRIZZLY COME BACK ANY KIND OF CAMPER COULD SEE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU DID'NT LIKE ABOUT ME...... GRIZZLY COME BACK, YOU CAN BLAME IT ALL ON ME...I WAS BLIND AND I JUST CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOU. TKO...back in the house. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THE BAND IN THE 70′S PLAYER, SING THIS SONG WITH THE TUNE”BABY COME BACK”

ALL DAY LONG PLAYING WITH ALL MY GRIZZLY FRIENDS,.. TRYING TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE I SHOULD BE HERE HERE…..
BUT WHEN THAT MORNING CAME AND THE BEAR DRUG ME OUT OF THE TENT,… HOW I WISHED TO GOD I DIDN’T CAMP HERE….

GRIZZLY COME BACK ANY KIND OF CAMPER COULD SEE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU DID’NT LIKE ABOUT ME……
GRIZZLY COME BACK, YOU CAN BLAME IT ALL ON ME…I WAS BLIND AND I JUST CAN’T LIVE WITHOUT YOU.

TKO…back in the house.

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By: TKO http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-176238 TKO Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:38:23 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-176238 Aunt M Guess who, it is so good too see your still here, i did check back a few times but there was no activity so it has been a long while since i posted. I just happened to think about Dexter and logged back on to this site thinking by chance i might find my Bear loving freinds and there you are. I have not heard hide nor hare as we say in Texas of Remmy maybe she will see our postings and come back to see us. I saw a good documentary on Discovery the other day about Yellowstone Park Bears and their continued unwanted intrusion to their fellow human park inhabitants...very sad they are starting to youthinize the Bears that get to close to people...got to go Aunt M

Guess who, it is so good too see your still here, i did check back a few times but there was no activity so it has been a long while since i posted. I just happened to think about Dexter and logged back on to this site thinking by chance i might find my Bear loving freinds and there you are. I have not heard hide nor hare as we say in Texas of Remmy maybe she will see our postings and come back to see us. I saw a good documentary on Discovery the other day about Yellowstone Park Bears and their continued unwanted intrusion to their fellow human park inhabitants…very sad they are starting to youthinize the Bears that get to close to people…got to go

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By: Vanessa http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-176002 Vanessa Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:36:39 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-176002 I agree with wisconsin As I watched the movie, it became clear to me that this man was disturbed. He ment well, I'm sure, but a person who claims to be interrested in animals of any kind, should know better. I do not judge him. I feel sorry for him, his motive may have been to escape something that nobody knows, but he paid the price, and his angered moments on camara and reminding us that ONLY he made it, giving info to children for free!! and if there is a God, bring rain?? I feel sorry for him, admire his extreme way of dealling with his problems, but he was a fool. And paid a terrible price. Im from South Africa, even though I feel STRONGLY against poaching of lions, I cannot go and live amongst them, like other said, animals dont feel of think like us. There are other ways to protect animals. He wasn't a bad person.. but he was wrong. To his parents: Something was wrong with him, somebody hurt him, somewhere along his life, somebody hurt him or took something away. He was sad and angered. This was the way he delt with it... And yes, poaching these animals are wrong..and in my language: "Jy sal die prys betaal vir elke dier wat jy doodmaak, jy sal sien - aan elke persoon wat 'n beer doodskiet vir plesier" Daar kom altyd 'n dag... I agree with wisconsin

As I watched the movie, it became clear to me that this man was disturbed. He ment well, I’m sure, but a person who claims to be interrested in animals of any kind, should know better. I do not judge him. I feel sorry for him, his motive may have been to escape something that nobody knows, but he paid the price, and his angered moments on camara and reminding us that ONLY he made it, giving info to children for free!! and if there is a God, bring rain?? I feel sorry for him, admire his extreme way of dealling with his problems, but he was a fool. And paid a terrible price.

Im from South Africa, even though I feel STRONGLY against poaching of lions, I cannot go and live amongst them, like other said, animals dont feel of think like us. There are other ways to protect animals. He wasn’t a bad person.. but he was wrong.

To his parents: Something was wrong with him, somebody hurt him, somewhere along his life, somebody hurt him or took something away. He was sad and angered. This was the way he delt with it…

And yes, poaching these animals are wrong..and in my language:

“Jy sal die prys betaal vir elke dier wat jy doodmaak, jy sal sien – aan elke persoon wat ‘n beer doodskiet vir plesier”

Daar kom altyd ‘n dag…

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175828 Oh, Get Real Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:48:06 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175828 I think Sabrina just got some new camera equipment. Maybe you could Email her and see if she plans to capture a bear's aura on film. (I'm assuming that bear's have auras . . . Sabrina will know.) :) I think Sabrina just got some new camera equipment. Maybe you could Email her and see if she plans to capture a bear’s aura on film. (I’m assuming that bear’s have auras . . . Sabrina will know.)

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175827 Oh, Get Real Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:39:30 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175827 Indeed you can get some very good quality pictures using telephoto lens, but it is more difficult. First, large lens are usually mounted on tripods to keep the camera still. Hand holding a lens that size is very difficult. Even a heart beat can blur a picture. Then there is the problem of the animal moving. It's more difficult to keep a moving animal in your view finder with a large lens on a tripod. Then there is the problem of surface heat distorting the picture. You often see that on TV with videos shot from distance . . . it makes the shot waving due to the rising heat. Then there is the problem of light . . . a small lens can function is less light, so early in the morning or late in the day a small lens is more functional. Then there is the price. Large lens of any quality cost megabucks. Of course, there is the problem of carrying and setting up a large lens in the back country. And of course, in Coles case he just wanted to get close to bears to study them . . . or so the story goes. Indeed you can get some very good quality pictures using telephoto lens, but it is more difficult. First, large lens are usually mounted on tripods to keep the camera still. Hand holding a lens that size is very difficult. Even a heart beat can blur a picture.

Then there is the problem of the animal moving. It’s more difficult to keep a moving animal in your view finder with a large lens on a tripod.

Then there is the problem of surface heat distorting the picture. You often see that on TV with videos shot from distance . . . it makes the shot waving due to the rising heat.

Then there is the problem of light . . . a small lens can function is less light, so early in the morning or late in the day a small lens is more functional.

Then there is the price. Large lens of any quality cost megabucks.

Of course, there is the problem of carrying and setting up a large lens in the back country.

And of course, in Coles case he just wanted to get close to bears to study them . . . or so the story goes.

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By: Aunt Melissa http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175820 Aunt Melissa Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:03:21 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175820 There's a wildlife documentary on Satelite where this woman and man go into isolated areas and look for the perfect shot, camera shot that is. And he has a wicked, I mean a wicked tele-photo lense. It must weigh 20 lbs. But it took some unbelievable photos from a distance and yet it looked as though you were right in the animals face. There’s a wildlife documentary on Satelite where this woman and man go into isolated areas and look for the perfect shot, camera shot that is. And he has a wicked, I mean a wicked tele-photo lense. It must weigh 20 lbs. But it took some unbelievable photos from a distance and yet it looked as though you were right in the animals face.

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By: Aunt Melissa http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175817 Aunt Melissa Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:55:16 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175817 Oh get Real, Well, I found it interesting just chatting with you. I think you may have redeemed your Aura. Actually, I never found anything wrong with your Aura in the first place. LOL! Oh get Real,
Well, I found it interesting just chatting with you. I think you may have redeemed your Aura. Actually, I never found anything wrong with your Aura in the first place. LOL!

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175807 Oh, Get Real Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:19:08 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175807 AM, if the rest of your friends check in here for a visit, at least they will have something to read. Maybe they will find it interesting. AM, if the rest of your friends check in here for a visit, at least they will have something to read. Maybe they will find it interesting.

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175803 Oh, Get Real Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:07:46 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175803 Mitch, you should check out Sabrina's website: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TimothyTreadwell_Paths/ Mitch, you should check out Sabrina’s website:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TimothyTreadwell_Paths/

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By: Oh, Get Real http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/10725/grizzly-man-2/comment-page-32/#comment-175801 Oh, Get Real Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:37:03 +0000 http://www.maisonbisson.com/blog/?p=10725#comment-175801 Mitch, As I understand it, using a camera with a telephoto lens produces a more grainy picture. The smaller the lens the better the quality of the picture. This is true of regular film. (How this works with digital equipment I don't know.) Cole's goal was to document the lives of grizzlies in their natural habitat. He needed to get pictures of bears that had little or no contact with humans. So that explains his methods. Of course none of this makes sense. It's not like there isn't an entire body of science on the lives of grizzlies. It's not like there aren't about eleventeen million bear pictures in the world. It's not like Jim Cole was contributing anything. The truth is all of this was for Jim Cole, not for bears. All of these people follow a different drummer. Each has their own reasons for what they believe. None of them make any sense. Treadwell believed that a new personal relationship between humans and bears could be established, one of mutual understanding and trust. Exactly what Jim Cole believes I don't know, but he did tell a group of people at one of his lectures (sponsored by the Sierra Club) that bears view human differently than other animals view humans. As Vicky said, Cole didn't elaborate, so exactly how far into all this New Age jive Cole is remains unclear. However, we do know Sabrina has one strange aura. Mitch,

As I understand it, using a camera with a telephoto lens produces a more grainy picture. The smaller the lens the better the quality of the picture. This is true of regular film. (How this works with digital equipment I don’t know.)

Cole’s goal was to document the lives of grizzlies in their natural habitat. He needed to get pictures of bears that had little or no contact with humans. So that explains his methods.

Of course none of this makes sense. It’s not like there isn’t an entire body of science on the lives of grizzlies. It’s not like there aren’t about eleventeen million bear pictures in the world. It’s not like Jim Cole was contributing anything. The truth is all of this was for Jim Cole, not for bears.

All of these people follow a different drummer. Each has their own reasons for what they believe. None of them make any sense. Treadwell believed that a new personal relationship between humans and bears could be established, one of mutual understanding and trust. Exactly what Jim Cole believes I don’t know, but he did tell a group of people at one of his lectures (sponsored by the Sierra Club) that bears view human differently than other animals view humans. As Vicky said, Cole didn’t elaborate, so exactly how far into all this New Age jive Cole is remains unclear. However, we do know Sabrina has one strange aura.

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