My dad forwarded me the following pictures and story:
These pictures are of a guy who works for the US Forest Service in Alaska and his trophy bear. He was out deer hunting last week when a large grizzly bear charged him from about 50 yards away. The guy unloaded his 7mm Mag Semi-automatic rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him.
The big bear was still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head. The bear was just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12′ 6? high at the shoulder,14′ to the top of his head. It’s the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world. Of course, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Commission did not let him keep it as a trophy, but the bear will be stuffed and mounted, and placed on display at the Anchorage airport (to remind tourist’s of the risks involved when in the wild).
Based on the contents of the bears stomach, the Fish and Wildlife Commission established the bear had killed at least two humans in the past 72 hours. The US Forest Service, backtracking from where the bear had died, found a hiker’s 38-caliber pistol emptied. Not far from the pistol was the remains of the hiker . The other body has not been found. Although the hiker fired six shots and managed to hit the grizzly with four shots (they ultimately found four 38 caliber slugs along with twelve 7mm slugs inside the bear’s body) it only wounded the bear and probably angered it.
The bear killed the hiker an estimated two days prior to the bear’s own death by the gun of the Forest Service worker. Think about this - if you are an average size man; You would be level with the bear’s belly button when he stood upright, the bear would look you in the eye when it walked on all fours! To give additional perspective, consider that this particular bear, standing on its hind legs, could walk up to an average single story house and look over the roof, or walk up to a two story house and look in the bedroom windows.
Not wanting to get fooled again, I went to check it out on Snopes.com. Surprisingly, Snopes says the pictures are real, even if the story is heavily embellished:
The basic story here is true although some of the details are wrong, perhaps because two different recent incidents of very large bear killings in Alaska have been conflated into one.
The bear pictured above was killed in November 2001 by a hunter (not a Forest Service employee) who came across it while he was deer-hunting in Alaska.
The hunter told his own story at HuntingNet.com.
The pictures of the November 2001 shooting became confused with a later account of a killing, also in Alaska, of another very large bear.
That story is told here.
Update: Grizzly Man, a new movie by Werner Herzog, is related only in theme. Here’s my vicarious Grizzly Man movie review.
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I thioght the true story was more interesting than the fabricated one.
He shot the Bear from TEN YARDS.
I wonder if he had to change his underwear afterwards?
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Nice, to find out the “true” story about the bear caper. That guy “mark” who submitted his wisecracking comments about the guy maybe needing to change his underwear is a real schmuck! He probably would have been hiding somewhere or trying to scale a very tall tree.
this animal was a beautiful creature and it kills me to see that picture of it just lying there with the blood smeered on it’s face. i love animals way more than people, so i think it was a damn shame to see an amazing beast fall down to a guy that probably did sh*t himself and then fired a gun.
I’d like to see how much you would love this animal when he was stripping your skin and muscle off of your femur bone, like he did to that one hiker. Its a shame to kill such magnificent and one of a kind animal, but thats the price when you eat people, or attempt to eat people armed with large rifles. Animals never come before people, you bozo.
Regarding the comment of “95CHVY”: that one hiker was probably killed by the bear, but quite probably NOT eaten by it! The way the leg was gnawed on, it is quite possible that other and also probably SMALLER carnivores were at work on the cadaver. You can further “research” such fantastic reports and photos quite easily, and thereby find what is fact and what exactly is embellished! Must admit though, to have seen such a magnificent animal alive in the wild (preferably from a good distance), would have been terrific!
I strongly believe that we take advantage of the fact that we live in civilization. This is still a planet, not a zoo, and sometimes you walk on another beasts territory. Even though we are very sophisticated, we are sill just animals, and you can’t expect to have your hand held everywhere you go, especially in the path of a 1600 pound creature. I think it is the hiker’s fault (and any other animal attack victim) for invading its land. On the other hand, the bear is just as stupid for charging a man with a rifle. As long as forest service didn’t hunt down the bear for “murder,” then I don’t think it was that barbaric…
What i also think is stupid is how we hunt down animals for killing people. Why not hunt them down for killing deer? It’s all the same in their eyes, and if you think people are SO special, why have we destroyed more life than ANY OTHER SPECIES ON EARTH????
First off Jarod…Your saying that you would let a 1600 pound bear take a swing at you with its claws almost the size of a toyota hub cap? NO! you wouldnt..I get sick of people like you constantly bitching at society when actually if we stepped down and let the animals get the top of the food chain it wouldnt be any better.
I can’t believe this bullshit. You guys are saying its his fault for being there? We’ are the most evolved species on the planet; that means that we were here before the current form of bear, and lion, and all the other man killers, save for croc’s and sharks. So, if anything the bear was invading on our, the peoples, space. And personally, whether it be man or beast, I’ll kill anything that tries to kill me. And I’ll do it with no remorse.
Jarod, the comment about humans destroying more life than any other species on earth is silly.
Stop and think for a second…
Humans are a minority species. There are FAR LESS humans than animals.
Just the number of ANTS outweighs humans by leaps and bounds… With their combined weight greater than the combined weight of all humans, ants are the most numerous type of animal on the planet… and they “destroy life”– even each other — all day long.
Actually there is a staggering number of wild carnivores on the planet at the moment. There are far more animals out there right now “destroying” other species.
It is impossible that humans have “destroyed more life” than any other species.
And the comment that is “stupid how we hunt down animals for killing people” is just offensive.
Not to kill an animal that kills humans is to say human life has no value and it’s just fine for another human to die.
If we are to live by your faulty logic, Jarod, then why try to elimanate diseases? Why not just say, “I think it is stupid how we try to eliminate viruses for killing people.” After all, a virus is a living organism. To turn your phrase: What makes people SO special over viruses?
Taking your statements to their ultimate conclusions means we should accept that it is ok for serial murderers to walk the streets too.
Why not hunt bears for killing deer? Because a deer is the natural FOOD of a carnivore… a human is not because we are at the TOP of the food chain.
And if you don’t think your life is more valuable than a bear, then why not go take a walk into those woods unarmed and do yourself and the bear a favor?
holy shit sum1 told me bout this n i serched it up on google fuck its a shame they killed it but i cnt say i blame thm id shoot it if i saw it comin 2 wards me!
and th post above mine tht diff between is tht we dnt kill 4 food its nt naturwal we kill 4 no reson sumtimes and thts unnatuwel n crule so u kinda tlked owt ye arse a bit
first off, ants don’t kill people everyday, there are someplaces where ants can and have killed people but your argument is ridiculous. humans have killed off more plants and animals then anyother species. we consume natural resources at an alarming rate, and we don’t balance our population with our habitat like animals do. we’ve taken the be fruitfull and multiply and blown it way out of proportion. if you still don’t get look out all plants and animals that are extinct or are on the endagered species list. sorry, the farther we build homes into the forest the more animals will attack to defend their young our territory. just like if you get into the ocean you take that chance of getting bit by a shark. if your in their habitat they only reacting the way nature made them react… get a clue humans are only on top of the food chain because we use weapons, go out there with a knife or spear and will call it a even fight
I think it is quite funny to sit here and read all of you people argue with each other…. Just think would you want something that large charging at you? I mean hell i know if something like that was running towards me i’d be shitting myself. All these men are doing is sharing there expierience with us, the rest of you are just blowing things out of poportion. Put your self in their shoes!!
You people who are crying over this thing…get a life. The bear killed two people and was going to kill a third, but since humans are smarter than bears… the guys shot it in the head with a big gun…personally, if a 14 foot bear was charging at me, i would think twice about shooting it in the head…and then id probably laugh at you people who say that guy shouldnt have killed the bear…becasue i dont think if that bear was charging you, youd sit there and say, “pretty bear!! come here and let me hug you!!” No, in fact you kind of people are prbably the ones who would cry and be its next victim…Humans are dominate…bears arent…dont cry
Humans are on top of the food chain, because we have evolved, thank god bears arent smart enough to use a gun. but hey, they have big ass teeth to defend themselves and claws and size, thankgod we have an equilizer. and i would definetely want someone to shoot that big ass bear if i didnt have a gun and someone else with did!!! i would die from a heartattack if i saw that prix in front of me somewhere, thats what nightmares are made of, and i love animals, but not human killers, when cougars come into our towns and thats not us in their supposedly wilderness, are we to leave them be or shoot their asses, i say shoot their asses and they will hopefully over time evolve to know not to come where we are. humans have to stay on top, we have to, thats all there is to it, and thats a fact, and you cant argue with a fact, so for you bleeding hearts -like dude said earlier-why dont you go take a walk in the woods, id like to see your bolstering ass cry about shooting the bear then, you are assinine!! and ignorant!! hopefully your kids will evolve into the future to be smarter than you!!!
first off renee i hope your kids evolve to be smarter than the dumbshit redneck you are. when cougars travel into towns its because we have overpopulated and waste all our natural resources by spreding like viruses all over the country. first off if you investigate this story farther the wildlife officials that took over this incident said the bear did not have anyone or any parts in its stomach nor was it 14 feet tall. when you travel into the woods to hunt bears for nothing other that it being a so called sport you people are the morons. there is no viable reason to hunt bears other than some dumb ass macho trip. and guns are not equalizers they are nothing but a means to kill. so when we humans kill off everything and cut down all the forests and pollute the planet all the dumb shit rednecks can get together and drink beer, talk about guns and killing animals, and then inbreed all day long!!!!!! get a life, study the story and you might educate yourself. i doubt it thought.
Can’t we all just get along. On another note, it’s funny when you act educated and still can’t spell
You guys are idiots, whoever defended the mans actions by saying “it was self defense”…NO! it’s not self defense, he went out in the wild to do what?? HUNT AND KILL ANIMALS, he wasn’t on a nature trail w/ a gun! Get real info. before ou talk like an ass…and for those people that said humans were here before the current form of animals, did you not forget that we evolved too?? not necessarily from apes (which i believe we did), yet we did obviously evolve…
If you don’t have the instinct of self preservation, which some of you evidently don’t, then you deserve to die. It is that simple. He killed the bear, and if you had half a brain you would to. Of course, If you had half a brain, you would’nt need me to explain that.
I love how you all bitch about how we are invading upon their territory. Houses and development push upon habitat, not people. This guy was out and about hunting looking for tasty little animals to kill and eat. Animals are delicious and I prefer to eat baby rabbits because they are so tender and cute.
It is very obvious that most of you have no real clue what nature is about. Most of you deplore killing animals in their natural habitat, but don’t even think twice about eating a tasty turkey sandwich at Togos, which comes from a turkey that was electrocuted and then cut up, ending its life in a cage in its own feces.
I realize that I’m not going to change any of your opinions about how it is good or at least justifiable that he killed the bear, even though the bear would hvae killed him. So I’m just going to leave you with this. I want you all to know that I’m going to make it my mission in life to kill animals. Everytime I hear a bleeding heart liberal moron whine about how cruel that is while they sit on their leather couch, I”m going to make a tally in a book and kill something. I’ve killed lots of animals. I’ve killed ducks, geese, phesants, doves, quail, deer, rabbits, squirrels, antelope and even a really big bear. I even once smited a woodpecker because he looked at me wrong. I value their life and enjoy watching them in nature, and then eating them. But guess what, this is natures way. And every time i hear someone bitch about how I hunt, it just makes every animal i kill and eat just that more delicious.
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jerk asses criticizing a man for saving his life whats wrong with u it was for his survival
You bleeding hearts need to get out of the friggin’ city and try to pet a few grizzlies, good luck.
Jarod, you’re a lunatic. Please, please, tell me you are still a kid. All legit claims of environmentalists are undermined by your oversimplistic and yes, juvenile reasoning.
that was the biggest bear i have ever seen i still can’t beleive that the bear was shot with four 38 slugs then a 7mm and the bear was still walking o well that bear is dead good o well peace
I wonder if bears sit around and discuss this shit. Maybe they have environmentalist bears. A bear kills a deer and all the candy ass bears start an uproar about how he was encroaching on the deer’s territory, and really should only be eating berries if he was any kind of REAL bear. There should be well marked zones for bears to tread on cause them deer have their rights. I mean, what is a carnivores bear thinking killing a poor innocent deer? What kind of animal would even consider it? Savages. All them damn meat eating bears. Why are they even out beyond them berry bushes in the first place? And don’t get me started on them damn deer either. I mean, if they don’t quit eating all those bushes and creating such a environmentalist’s nightmare, they will have to answer to the eco police too, let me just set all you straight on that because I’m a activist and I know these things you morons….. Just stay in your houses 24/7 and deal with it.
I lived in Fairbanks, Alaska for many years and what bothers me about this story is, where in Alaska did this happen? There are no deer other than in SE Alaska to my knowledge & they are very small and seldom hunted
The size is more that of a Kodiak bear than a Grizzly.
The bottom line is: Kill or be killed. ..Eat lunch or be lunch!
Oh, and my reply to Binks response is:
LOL..totally!!!
BEARS ARE SCARY, KILL THEM ALL!!!!
How many of you anti-hunters were this enraged about the last world record bear? Are you angry because this is now the largest bear killed? What about the smaller bears, even cubs, don’t they deserve this kind of outrage? I wonder if that big bear killed any smaller bears? The truth is that hunting is a great necessity. It is not simply for boasting or bragging rights, but more so for the conservation of the animal. It has been found true that without hunting, population suffers.(people and animals)
I would agree that there are some hunters who are idiotic in their pursuit of wildlife. But I believe that there are many more hunters who enjoy the sport, whether they kill or not, and quite truthfully have a greater love for the animal than the supposed love that those of you who oppose hunting claim to have.
This is by far and without contest the single most hilarious discussion I have ever read. I thank you all!
I am the Bear’s father. I will kill all of you! You are all stupid!
hi how arw you all i was wondering if any photos of this big bear were available to purchase or have sent to my email address of it standing up as i am a keen sports shooter and hunter myself hope to hearing from u soon thank u terry
if that bear should of been killed or not is the only thing you tree huggen, do nothing for our planet or society sons of bitches have to do then you need to look at what good do you do for nature or anyone else for that matter. If you eat anything at all, it was killed first for your enjoyment even vegtables is a living thing. I suppose none of you drive a car either so you don’t invade or kill a bug. What idiots!
how did humans evolve??? killed animals that is correct. y do we kill animals now to have food and sport. u damn peta people when u eat a damn ear of corn u kill it by cuttin off the ear. so u guys can go shove all the shit u eat up ur damn asses
when u kill animals they usually dont feel a fuckin 30-06 go through them and i hope more people become hunters to help control the animal population fuck off peta
Actually peta there is a sign in my ass that says
EXIT ONLY
This bear was taken by a hunter not protecting himself from danger, but actually hunting. The human remains are probably from a bear attack yes, which should remind us that humans are not the dominate species in the wild and we all need to be aware of our surroundings. We all have to remember that wild animals were here first. Wild animals do not read books or have any knowledge. Therefore a meal is a meal to them. We need to respect the animals and understand that we all share the earth together.
Ok you idiots. For the ones that are saying this is such a shame to see this beautiful creature dead….beautiful it may be but are you trying to tell the world that if this so called beautiful 1600 lb. creature came towards you not to play with you but to kill you or your child you would do nothing, YOU ARE SOO FULL OF IT. I could care a less if all the bears in the world would be killed. We have much more in this world going on that is a lot worse then this death of a KILLING ANIMAL!!!! Watch the news and find something more important to argue and cry about!!!
People: Do the math. Huge Bear coming at you ready to snuff out your life. You, wanting to live and not die out in the wilderness all by your lonesome, decide to shoot and wound, or possibly kill the big ass bear so you can get away to safety. Looks like a simple enough equation to me.
I hope you all know that this story is BS. The picture is real and the bear is too but it didn’t just happen, wasn’t 14′ as described and it hadn’t eaten anyone. The bear was 11′ and it was killed in 2001 by a guy in the Air Force stationed at Eilson AB in AK. Go to http://www.alaska.com/activities/bears/story4434968p-4676055c.html for the real story.
Pat, I am so glad we have people like you that are so much better then everyone else and know so much more then anyone else. I would also guess your a vegetarian. The guy talking about ants only said the ants out weighed people , you brought it up that they don’t kill people. Ever hear of the soldier ants of Africa. Thousands of humans and animals die every year when they march.
Yes I am a hunter and I eat what I take or I don’t take it. Much the same as you buy groceries , only my foods are not raised with chemical formulas. I do believe that God made the place for animals. And that place is right next to the mashed potatos. So, think about what your eating next time you go to Micky D’s
You have a very slim train of thought if you think everyone who hunts is a red neck or in-breeder. Could it be you have a quilty mind. HHHMMMM Hers another thought for you. Who was the first one to place animal skins on a human’s back??? Thats right your maker in the Garden of Edin when a dim wit woman plucked the apple she was told to leave alone. I think we all know thats when all mans trouble began.
ALL YOU STUPID FRIGIN DUMBASSES WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT HE SHOULDNT HAVE KILLED THE BEAR….. I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT JUST FOR A SECOND WHO WOULDNT TAKE OUT THEIR RIFLE TO DEFEND THEIR LIFE I MEAN IF I SEEN THE BEAR CHARGING ME I WOULD HAVE BLASTED THE STUPID THING TO, THEN EATEN IT DAMN PEOPLE!!!!!
wot r u guys talking about, i am the worlds largest bear
animal rights activist suck buttermilk. responsible hunters and gun owners do the best conservation by far. and that goes for rednecks dumbasses animal lovers and anybody else period the end
Tree huggers suck ass, and hippies smell like bigfoots dick
Really, I’m rooting for the bear all the way. I would personally like to see a pay-per-view sport where we send huge bears like this into a ring against gun touting trailer trash rednecks and watch them get snacked upon.
WheHew BillyBoy… Lookie at that bigol’ bear commin’ right atcha! Gimme da gun! Whatsdat? Yeu don’ hava gun! Maby God will save us! Nope… Guessnaut.
Another redneck down and a better world for it.
Other then food, why do we need to hunt.
To control Animal Population? Well they did a good job of dying before we got here, why do they need help dying now?
I would hunt for food. And I would kill if I need to save my life.
But I don’t agree in controlling animal popluation. I can’t wait for a more evolved creature to come along and control our population. I say we need it desperlately.
Perhaps that’s what AIDS is doing. Controlling out popluation.
My life is no more weight then any animal’s life. I can die just as easily. I don’t have the right to kill something just because it’s ‘inferior’. A bear in the wild will kill to eat, to defend. Not to control an animal’s population.
God made animals for their purpose, and humans for their purpose, He DID NOT MAKE US EQUAL!!
hey, like, so, a bear that big must have taken huge dumps. sweet.
this iz a huge bear i wouldnt have thought about killing it i would have ran gret job guys and congrats
thanks
I have to admit I love eating my veggies!!! I just happen to prefer them already eaten…by a cow, deer, rabbit..You get the idea. Some of you have raised mre hell over a hunter taking down a bear than ou would over a murder being commited. I assume you would plea for compassion on the killer too. After all he is just a stupid human and deserves your pity. Whatever. If no one ever killed any animal where you think you would live right now???? Ummm no where cause the entire planet would be wildlife habitat and some bear or whatever would haev eaten you already!
nice bear…….k all you people put yourslef in that guys situation…would you have just let that huge bear run at you and let him roll you around like a toy ball and chew you up to save its life…when none would no what happened to you?? Thats right i didnt think so….so all you aniaml saving tree huggers go back home to your mtohers and grow up and leave us men and women hunters alone…
To Gabe:
Life FEEDS on life.
No surprise though, you’re probably an environMENTAL case too.
pls,yeh beautiful animal,simple, u hurt me I hurt u.all get a life tree huggers or move to girdwood
Man you people are idoits. its stupid people like you guys that get on the internet and bullcrap about some bear story and make it sound more extreme then it really is, then the rest of the world hears a big lie. GET YOUR STORY’S STRAIGHT!!!!
First off, the bear didnt kill any people. you guys are mixing your storys up, the story most of you are thinking about just happend a little while ago in alaska where a bear did kill two people, but it wasnt the bear that you guys are all winning about that got killed in the pic. the picture of the bear you guys are seeing was killed in 2001. so how the hell could people that were killed in 2005, have been killed by a bear that was killed in 2001. second off the bear didn’t charge the hunter, he shot it from ten yards away, while hiding behind a tree, but yes it did take a couple of shots to kill. and thirdly it isnt the world record bear either, so before you people all bullshit about something get your facts straight. the real story can be found at http://www.blackbearheaven.com/world-record-grizzly-bear2.htm
and i have one more thing. all of you people are argueing and complaining about something that happend in 2001, thats over four years ago. man you people are idiots, your timing is terrible.
Please, are you people serious…. Look at the pictures, read the story. Wondering why you don’t hear this news anywhere other than email? Oh yeah, it’s all a load of crap.
Bear tastes good!!!!
Nice picture.
If you would do some research, you would find out that this story is false. The bear was killed but it never ate a human. The origin of the third picture of the hiker is unknown. Someone threw in that picture to spice up the story. Go to breakthechain.com and look up A Bear Of A Tale.
If you would do some research, you would find out that this story is false. The bear was killed but it never ate a human. The origin of the third picture of the hiker is unknown. Someone threw in that picture to spice up the story. Go to breakthechain.org and look up A Bear Of A Tale
you “activists” are the most uneducated idiotic people in the world, i’m so sick of reading about how this bear should not have killed… animals like that are out mauling domestic animals and humans… and u pukes are bitching about saving them… well fuck, when you come into an encounter with a bear, make sure you email me about your experience, if you alive… the fact of that matter is, the only wildlife you people bitching see is probably birds in some urban city, come to the country and piss of a bear with a few cubs, maybe your story will change
ok, if i was walking down a trail and i seen a bear comin at me. 14 ft or 4 ft. it dont matter how big the damn thing is, its a bear and im a man, instinct tells me to kill or be killed. i love animals just as much as anyone else in this world. they are very fun to look at, they are very amazing, they are beautiful. im sure any hunter will agree with that. thats why hunters do there part to help animals servive. hense food plots etc. we also have our place on this earth to hunt animals and enjoy the beauty of them right next to our potatoes and beans. for some reason soy burgers dont sound as good as moose burgers to me. and for all of you that think all hunters are red necks and gun toetin hill billies, i cant wait for you to die and go to heaven so you can go call the great men of this nation who gave you freedom and rights a redneck or a hill billy. see if mr washington himself, or mr lincoln will agree with you. if you dont want to hunt and kill dont then. but if you decide that then do me and my fellow hunters a favor and let us have our rights also. after all when this nation has to go to war for what ever reason good or bad, would you rather send someone with a tree huggin desk job or a hunting season. infact go find out how many of our soldiers that fight for you and me everyday. and pay the ultimate sacrifice are tree huggers. i bet the majority are on our side.
the whole story is real unlike that guy said that the bear was 11′. trust me just trust… the story is just a lil off though cause u kno that last snack that bear had was me. yea i was in him and that guy shot him while i was alive in the freaken bear. The morge guys cut me out cause my lil swiss army knife just wouldnt cut dat bears skin. and i breathed out the bears asshole. the bears inside were like so big… cool huh?
Check the website for the real story: http://www.blackbearheaven.com/world-record-grizzly-bear.htm
hhuhuhh…..wrascilly beaws….
As a Presbyterian Minister, I am saddened by the failure of so many peopoe to realize that humans did not evolve, but were created in the image of God in the position of master species and caretakers of this planet and the life on it. What makes us so special is that we are the only mortal creatures created in His image with this special relationship to Him (at least on this planet, I can’t say for sure if there are others on other planets or not). Many other creatures on this planet were created by Him specifically as food for us. We were not meant to be food for any of them.
In fact, the Bible actually requires that when any animal kills a humn being the animal is to be killed, just as any human who commits premeditated murder is to be executed. For a genuine Christian, that is, as they say, “end of discussion.” Hunting is a legitimate activity, authorized by God. Deer and other game animals are a resource He has given us to use and control. Hunting is the best method of carrying out that responsibility. The meat of wild game is better for us than most commercially raised and processed meat today.
Venison, for instance, has virtually no fat, and the collesterol it has is the good kind.
The fellow who shot this bear was reportedly deer hunting at the time. Certainly no hunter who knows his weaponry would intentionally go after a grizzly bear with only a 7mm rifle. The hunter’s life was clearly in jeopardy in this bear attack. So he had an absolute right to kill the bear in self-defense. Anyone who does not understand that one human life is more precious and valuable than all other animal life combined has no idea who God is or why we exist. The purpose of human existence is to glorify God and fully to enjoy Him forever. It is not to be bear food. One of the facts of how He created us is that we are the top predator on the planet. It is very sad and unfortunate that so many people today have lost their instinct and appreciation for this very rewarding and perfectly natural activity. I don’t know about this particular bear. It would be pretty tough meat, I imagine. But I have eaten black bear sausage; and it was delicious. It tasted a bit like beef. I don’t believe in killing just to kill.
But I certainly do enjoy the thrill of the hunt and the excellent eating wild game provides. It is an affront to God to condemn hunting when it is a very significant part of how He created us to function.
In my haste, I seem to have misspelled a few words in my previous message. Sorry about that. Just proves nobody’s perfect.
Dear Presbyterian Minister
Hunting is barbaric, and anyone who puts their faith in God is needlessly attaching themselves to misinformation and unsubstantiated propoganda.
Thank You,
Cliff
And, the sausage of dead Christian tastes more like chicken than beef.
Thank You,
Cliff
How can we trust this God you speak of when He goes and declares war on boy scouts? http://nosheep.net/story/god-declares-war-on-boy-scouts/
While I hate to play “pig pile on Larry”, I never shy away from a socio-political debate. To say that “humans did not evolve, but were created in the image of God” suggests that you know a thing or two about your religion, but nothing at all about the theory of evolution. Believers and non-believers can shout back and forth all day without making any headway, but this much is certain: faith is not a virtue, as it is a non-standard. On faith alone, one is equally likely to conclude that God created man, floods are caused by angry spirits, the universe revolves around the Earth, and the tooth fairy leaves quarters under your pillow. Larry claims that “one human life is more precious and valuable than all other animal life combined”. In fact, without other animals and the eco-systems they support, humans would soon perish. Whereas, in the absence of human-wrought destruction, eco-systems would flourish.
To “beef or bear”: your views seem to rest on a misconception; that U.S. soldiers in Iraq are fighting on our behalf. Iraq never posed a threat to America, but people like you are interested in retaliation, not sober facts. That is why Bush can say “up is down, black is white” and still get enough votes to hang onto power.
to “beef or bear”:
Let’s put it this way. I’m a tree hugging desk jocky, and I’m so sick of you friggin’ gun touting, trailer park dwelling, primered firebird driving, budwiser drinking, nascar watching white trash redneck bastards that I’m just about ready to take up arms.
You are a canker on society!
Oh, and for my qualifications, and likelyhood being effective with a gun in my hands: I load my own 9mm rounds, have won many awards in both trap and pratical shooting competitions, own several semi automatic pistols with 15 round magazines, and have vast experience with a number of fully and semi automatic assault rifels, including the MP5, M16, SKS and AK47.
Remember that there are plenty of people in the libberal, anti-war, tree-hugging camp with combat stills too. We’re just to evolved to build our life around guns and war.
And yes… Evolution is real.
Hey
Did you guys see the world record moose taken in Alaksa.
http://www.mooseheaven.com/world-record-moose/world-record-moose.htm
Jim
That’s really cool… You killed and innocent animal for the fun of it. I hope you ate every last bit of meat from that animal for survival.
You poeple slay me. Oh better be carefull. Youpeople areso funny. Mommy was cool most of the rest of you are pretty fucking long winded, aren’t we now?
yep,I r redneck missed my chance Guess I will have to kill an 1800 lb bear.
wow, you mean I really had the last word.
Word!
nope still last word here
Some of you people should read the book Alaska Bear Tales by Larry Kaniut, you would understand why they shot the bear. I would never have to pull the trigger if one came at me, I would die of a heart attack first. And some of the stories in that book have scared the hell out of me..
as you read this,notice that your eyes face foward,not to the sides or slightly behind as most herbivores.look in the mirror,you have both canine teeth for tearing and molars for grinding.our ears are located to the sides of our head facing foward for sound location during pursute. man is an omnivore much like the bear. I cannot condone killing for (sport), but if one takes issue with another for harvesting what is to be utilised for food purpose than the argument becomes invalid. some prefer to work for themselfs rather than have it pre packaged or dilivered via a drive up window. to say that man does not belong in the wilderness would be to deny the past as it has only been in the last few thousand years that man has beome less of a hunter/gatherer and more sedentary,depending on others to do the work for him. it is truth that all life on earth depends upon death of some sort to survive. I do not condeme someone for choosing a vegan lifestyle anymore than i can make someones dicision as to when to have or not have a baby,,or seek a doctor to help with suicide, these are personal choices. and i will not ask permission or make apoligies for mine. we are as much an animal here on earth as the bear or the elk we pursue. and please remember your freedoms are the same as mine.
We are still members of the animal kingdom even though some may believe we’re above it all, due to our intelligence. We are still predators and we are still prey, in many instances, to thousands of animals around the planet every year. We must remember that bears, lions and poisonous critters are not cuddly Disney World animals, that will carry on a conversation with you, beside a waterfall as the beautiful sun sets over a mountain range. Every animal in the wild, lives and dies a violent and sometimes extremely prolonged, violent death as it helps to feed other predators. That’s the way it’s been and that’s the way it’s always going to be. Species will evolve and they will disappear, regardless of how many times folks unnaturally interfere, trying to change the natural course of things.
very well put john
I enjoyed your take on the whole issue also. I remember speaking with a fellow from Washington State years ago and how fanatic he was about people looking after the wilderness. He would get extremely upset with hunters, fishermen and tourists for whatever reasons and wanted the wilderness in his area to remain unspoiled and untouched. Well, nature herself ended that dream for him when Mt. St. Helens went off and killed all the wildlife and devastated the forests and lakes. That’s what change is all about. Things come and things go. Our evolution happened to be faster than other animals and the tools that evolved with us made us more capable. If we could all look 10,000 years into the future, chances are, none of what we’re arguing over today will have made any difference in changing the nature of the planets evolution.
Hey
Larry !! the minister left a message above. Are you the same Larry the minister who caught the monster Walleye up in Canada.
http://www.walleyeheaven.com/record-walleye.htm
Freddy
People argue about the most meaningless trivia. We worry about a bear that was killed 4 years ago. Everything that we have and all of the beauty that we see around us could be gone in the blink of an eye like John said about St. Helens, which is minute in comparison with Yellowstone, which is overdue to explode. When it went off the last time, it totally annihalated most of Western USA and left one foot of ash on Mexico and an inch of ash on Florida. It changed the temperature of the atmosphere for years and screwed up everything on the globe that was normal for that time period. There won’t be a tree left to hug and no one will be worried about anything but survival for their families. PETA fanatics will be glad to get road-kill to feed their children. Be careful what you believe as your way of thinking can change overnight due to circumstance. Look at Indonesia.
okay now i have the last word
One day an atheist was taking a walk through the woods.
“What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!” he said to himself. ” And to think they were all created by a cosmic accident”
As he was walking alongside the river he suddenly heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to see a seven foot grizzly bear charging towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path but he looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on him.
Suddenly he tripped and fell to the ground. As he rolled over to pick himself up he saw the bear right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant the Atheist cried out: “Oh my God!”
All at once time stood still. The bear froze. The forest was silent. As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky: “You deny my existence for all of these years, teach others I don’t exist, and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Why do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?”
The atheist looked directly into the light, “It would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as a believer now, but perhaps could you make the BEAR a believer?”
“Very well,” said the voice. The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And then the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together and bowed his head and spoke:
“Lord, bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty , Amen.”
I know, I know…. but it seemed to be befitting of this forum… plus, you all needed some humor.
ok stop it.
but you did deserve lastword for the bear joke.. WORD
To im a tree hugger and all else who commented that hunters are “bad” and “rednecks”. Let me just tell you that hunting is not killing. Hunting is a very respected sport. It is a way of life, maybe we should let nature over run our neighborhoods. I am from Pennsylvania, and come hunting season you will not find me anywhere but the woods. And after hunting season you will not find anything on my plate but deer, or if I am lucky enough bear. I eat every bit of the animal that I harvest, and to read how wrong it is angers me greatly. I am a tree hugger that is great that you can shoot all of your fancy guns, but put a bow and arrow in your hand and a living breathing deer in front of you and lets see how great of a shot you are. You people make me laugh. I hope that this reply is read by the people who always have something smart to say. And yes I think it is great to see a wonderful animal like this harvested, jnow we can all enjoy his beauty in a mueseum. Now im going to go drink me a budweiser and watch a nascar race…..PSYCHE…
i got the last word
i shot a bear already but not that big of one only 191 bls. but i am also just a kid
LOL u guys talk about evolution like tis real……lol…theory of evolution….micro evoltuion is true……….but not evolution….Ne ways…….God created man….Man didn’t create himself
that would be a gg no re
allllllright
and im so bored im talking to myself…..
lol BigBoi…mess with that name……..whats up now…i just wasted all ur names
yea i hunted once……i saw these guys on Counter Strike source,…BooM!HEADSHOT….gg no re
im ur motha…….and ur fatha…….or ur mothas uncle’s fatha’s sons moth’as kid
wow that was a crazy combo…….id give that a 8/10 in crazyness
Yea….if i had to take that bear on…….i would bust a ty kwan do shot in the nuts….he would be out for a while………im tired som im gonna leave this boring hunter website and probably never come back…..only to see people freak out on what i said……or will they……here…..this might make u guys mad……Hunting sucks…there i just threw wood in the fire…..alllllright
……………if i had to take that bear on…….i would bust a ty kwan do shot in the nuts….he would be out for a while………im tired som im gonna leave this boring hunter website and probably never come back…..only to see people freak out on what i said……or will they……here…..this might make u guys mad……Hunting sucks…there i just threw wood in the fire…..alllllright
it’s all been amusing, other than scott. i hope someone out there has a bullet with your name on it.
The true story was published in Field and Stream I believe.As I read these replies I shudder at the ignorance of humanity..Think about this, in wild animal herds, the weaker of the species is left to the outside of the herd to be taken as prey.To be eaten by others,so it would be. In the human species we surround the weakest protect and feed them,allow them to breed, multiply to the point they become a burdon on the rest of the species.Maybe these animal attacks are Gods way to thin the gene pool.Some thing to think about the next time you read of one of these yuppie tree hugger hikers jogging in an area they stopped hunting and they become Cougar or Bear food. Everyone hug your tree while you make sure you saftey harness is adjusted correctly.
The source of the truth.http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/bigbear.html this explains the crossbreeding of the two Bear stories and the online BS added.
Okay, if a big hungry bear was running at me I’d shoot it, just like if a mugger attacked me. Be real, survival of the fittest is at play and in this case the semi automatic was more fit than the bear. Thankfully the man was not killed.
What about all of those animals and salmon that the bear killed. They’re beautiful creature that need us to save them too, right? OH NO. By the way, I’m not a red neck and I actually live in the city just in case you are wondering.
I am going to kill this guy who killed the bear.
thats all…
I am going to kill the guy from the photo and take a picture with him like he did with the bear.
thats all folks.
Tarzan, that would make you a lot sicker of a human being than you think the hunter is. You should get some professial help about your psycotic profile. Who will be your next victim? Someone who runs over a frog on the road?
i got told dis story from me history teacher 2day i didnt believe it at first
I just read that entire article and my eyes really hurt
i would love to see that bear charge me with my .458 safari gun. muhahahaha i would wipe that shit clean out of his ass
who cares bout this shit lol i mean its a friggin bear, dont reply and say IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY because i dont care really
more important stuff are happening now so just shut up, like if a A-bomb was dropped on the U.S. i bet you people will be still talkin about this, bunch of losers
u r a horrible person, shame on u for thinking killin a bear is nothing to wry about, i bet lot of people would agree wit me
i think that it is a beautiful trophy and the guy that shot it should be proud. it sucks that he couldnt keep it though. id have that bear stuffed and standing in the corner of my den holding my bow.
i think it is terrible to be killing bears over and over again. why cant we stop killing bears. they will probably be extinct in a few years. so i would say: think about what you are doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way i love bears. why would u hurt them????
ok i guess bears do kill people. but only because you’re introding in their teritory. Why can’t everybody leave bears alone full stop!!!!! And also ban all kinds of hunting.
ok i guess bears do kill people. but only because you’re introding in their teritory.
sorry i just said that!!! Are you really proud of killing something??? Gilory i dont know who you are but i’ve got a question for you: would ou be proud if you killed a bear of a living creature??? I know i wouldn’t be. I’m sure other people would agree aswell. Could someone just sort of reply to this cause i would like to know what they think of my point.
Can i just say to the man who killed the bear: how could you send these pictures to your children. I mean its discusting. i dont know how you can live with your self….
wont someone just answer me. please
i think D is a smart mutha fucka!!
KILL ALL ANIMALS WHICH CAN KILL US WEN WE AINT GOT WEAPONS!
we got the brains they got the braun we have guns which also help “yay”
dumb ass animals
MATTIE!!!! SHUT UP UR SUCH A FUCK ASS
Y DONT U JUST GO SUCK A FUCK!!!
i think mattie is ___ and needs to get a life!!
dont bring children into this. wot if it was ur kid, would u rather the bear ripped him to shit or he PROTECTED!!! himself and shot it?
or even better would ur children rather have a father and look at sum pics of a bear he killed or not and have to look at the pick of him dead like sumthin hanging in a butchers window?
Well boys, when you start talking stupid to each other like that, it’s time to shut down this website because your not making any sense and not adding anything worth listening to.
go on then do it, i dont care this site is crap anyway.
load of quers speakin!!!!
You just proved Bill’s point!
jack shut ur hole
Yall people you say it is stupid for killing deer are just fuckin retarded! What the hell is different about walkin up to a cow and blownin its fuckin brains out or a chicken or hell even a chicken! Hey man GOOD DAMN KILL! All these people hatin on you are just pissed off cuz they arnt in the record books! I would have shot that mother fucker too! And that hiker the bear had already eaten was prolly somebodys parent and every sane person alive would have wanted to kill that son of a bitch if it ate their parents!! PEACE OUT YOU FUCKIN RETARDS!!! KILL WILDLIFE!!
I would just like to say thank you for informing the public of the truth of the story. i am doing a project on the truth of this story as a project for biology! thank you so much you have mad hte reearch so much faster and worry free!
Thanks Again!
Mattie your a fuckin queer and i got someone who you can fuck named Phillip “Fuckin” Via!! Your so fuckin gay i wish someone would shoot your ass!! That way i wouldnt have 2 listen 2 you fuckin preach about how fuckin pretty bears are!! Better yet, i wish a fuckin bear would EAT your ass! I bet you would think pretty then you fuckin LOSER!!! Kill all Wildlife!!! PEACE OUT!!
Some idiots give all hunters a bad rap.its impossible to explain to a non hunter why we kill a few of the creatures we love. I hunt bears on Vancouver Island British Columbia. I respect the bears (yes,i eat them too). Matti has her opinion,respect it.POPS
Your right Pops. Everyone has an opinion that should be respected except for Pez and the boys who have to use a half dozen swear words to try to connect together the 3 or 4 english words they know to make a sentence.
Hey Pez,
If your parents finally decided to get married, would they still be considered brother and sister?
If your going to kill something for food or self preservation, thats fine. If your not going to eat it or your not defending yourself from it, then leave it for some other predator to eat.
Humans are natural born predators and that only becomes evident in non-hunters when they have to feed their children during a disaster. Everyone will kill something to feed their hungry children. I saw it happen many times in Bosnia where animal lovers had to feed the family dog and cat to their starving kids because there was no way to get food without dodging sniper bullets.
Folks in North America hunt because they want to and that’s the freedom of choice we have developed here over the last 200 years.
It’s easy to want to ban hunting and say you’ll never kill an animal when you live on a continent where there is a supermarket within 10 miles of anywhere and you have the money to pay someone else to do the killing and wrapping for you.
Pray to God that you never end up in a situation like Bosnia or Indonesia that will force you to eat your own words.
POPS SUCKS COCK!!!!!!!!!
Preston,
I hear your mommy calling you. Must be your potty or beddy time. Only little boys with bed-wetting-problems talk like that.
Hank! (the quer),
if it makes u feel better about bangin ur sister i will let u off with thinkin that it is a common thing and most people do it. remember if u do her in the ass no chances of interbreeding.
Well i do say, I have had quite the joyous time reading all of your ranting and raving.
but one thing that stands out the most in my mind is wow that is one big bar!
I myself am a hunter, and i ask myself this Q’s
Why would you go hunting w/ a 30.06 hunting in alaska. I use one of those to hunt jackrabbits out in the desert. please we need to buy this kid a 300 ultramag or something.
This world is all about fire power
Eat that Zack lee Wright i have the last word
get off the internet and get a job lazy firetrucks aka fuckers ok fuck your mothers
i once killed a bear out of self defense…i fed the beast george bush’s coke stash and the damn animal just overdosed in a second…it was truly unbelievable..thanks to my wildlife jogging partner,our president, I’m still alive :)keep up the good work Jorje
I just saw this film and it moved me on a number of levels. If you look at the movie poster its marketed as a quasi- religious experience with the bear in the background and a religious light shining down. While I was moved- my questions are- what did we learn from this film? No facetious responses please. I couldn’t agree with some of Tims incontinent AMerican optimism [we can relate to and understand everything] and neither could I see the blank stare of the bear as always expressing nothing other than the blank pitiless indifferences of the universe [Germanic pessimism] Surely the real debate we are having here is all about how we should live our lives and the discontents of civilization. Dr Johnson’s friend Sam Boswell once received a letter from a guy living with an “Indian” woman in the back of beyond in the Canadian Wilderness. To wit the guy said: ‘here I am with this Indian woman by my side and this gun with which I can procure food- what being could enjoy greater felicity?’ Boswell showed it to Johnson -this was Johnson’s response.
“Beware sir this is dire stuff. If a bull could speak it might as well exclaim- here I am with this cow by my side and this grass- what being could enjoy greater felicity.’ My questions are- wasn’t Tims version of the simple and good life- a little bit too simple?. And secondly what did Tim learn as oppossed to what we felt we learned about Tim. I’m not sure about this. I guess the answer is “to live with bears” The only probelm is we’ve been avoiding this for most of our race memory- and thats why we have houses and shops and supermarkets and roofs and all the stuff that we now find so appalling. And thats not to say we haven’t lost something. I’m just not sure that Tim recovered it. On another level the language in these exchanges is interesting. Tim was an ‘animal lover’ Some people seem to use this as a term of abuse. If you say somebody is an ‘animal’ you of course also mean it in a pejorative way. Think about animal lover and the structure of the words. What other word could come before ——lover? Its a mark of how badly we treat ‘animnals’ that our language is semantically degraded in this way. Anyway enough. The film was great and if Tim wanted to get eaten by a bear that’s up to him. If he wanted to eat bear shit thats also up to him. what i worry about is that after this film there may be a number of individuals looking for a mythic platform on which to present themselves. You know the kind of thing- ‘I failed in the human jungle but hey look I can live out here amongst the bears’.Isn’t this also about “achievement” and “ego” and all the things the film might actually want to stand against? One other thing. People are upset that the bear ate him. So what? That bear held out a bloody long time. Don’t you animal haters know the Randy Newman SOng ‘The One you love’ Lyrics go– ‘She may be hungry. She won’t say. You better get a burger or something in her right away. If not yer gonna pay- at the hands of the one you love’ Well to all those people who keep slagging off bears I can tell you that those goddamned bears were a helluva lot more tolerant than most people I know. Come on it didn’t woolf down its food or kill him straight away AND IT WAS STARVING. And neither did it complain about what was on the menu. What I’m saying is Tim did learn a lot- how to live with bears. What I’m asking is- how is this gonna help my own fucked up meaningless piddling 9-5 existence in an office. Should I too turn and live with bears? or should i be grateful that I’ve got a roof over my head, don’t have to live in a tent and can watch a film about bears in a nice comnfortable art deco film theatre. Or would that be just “meaningless”?
Yours faithfully
Muddled and confused but engaged.
That last post should have gone to Grizzly Man.
Regarding the Hunter. You Americans probably don’t know what Oscar Wilde said about fox hunting- ‘The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable’ Thats pretty much whats going on here I’m sure. I would also hazard a guess that the young man in the pic has a very very small penis or a problem with sexual dysfunction. In fact its almost a certainty. Hunting is actually an excuse most men use to get away from their ugly fat wives ‘I’m just going hunting dear’ and so on and so forth. Its a shame these poor creatures don’t understand this. In England we can’t afford it and have to make do with a small garden shed.
The majority of this dialogue proves that we’re not long out of the trees ourselves.
A little respect for each other and this planet would go a long way. Not surprising that living with bears can become a better choice.